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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 07:04:06 pm » |
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both are pretty good workin dogs if you got right blood. my opinion is yella dogs are way to over rated and good cats dont get enough credit. i got a little of everythiing on my yard
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2013, 06:42:53 pm » |
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Catahoulas are like BMC's, most suck and ain't no hog dog, but when you get a good one in either breed, they're hard to beat Tell us how u really feel Ben if your culling through that many dogs you need to change something last litter of yello dogs i raised we culled one pup the rest are bayin hogs cant say the same for the last litter of jam up cats produced 2 good ones and 4 culls but will change that in a couple breedings lol
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2013, 09:38:59 pm » |
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both are pretty good workin dogs if you got right blood. my opinion is yella dogs are way to over rated and good cats dont get enough credit. i got a little of everythiing on my yard tell you what james sence you like the cat dogs why dont you bring the nice yello dog lady back to me will be glad to take her off your hands.mite even buy you a cat dog to put in her place.lol just razzin you ;
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2013, 09:56:13 am » |
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BMC all the way I want touch a spotted dog
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2013, 12:07:15 pm » |
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Catahoulas are like BMC's, most suck and ain't no hog dog, but when you get a good one in either breed, they're hard to beat Tell us how u really feel Ben if your culling through that many dogs you need to change something last litter of yello dogs i raised we culled one pup the rest are bayin hogs cant say the same for the last litter of jam up cats produced 2 good ones and 4 culls but will change that in a couple breedings lol Or maybe me and you differ on what a hog dog really is
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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2013, 02:57:28 pm » |
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Spots typically require a regiment of antibiotics. Hehe
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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2013, 03:22:18 pm » |
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Catahoulas are like BMC's, most suck and ain't no hog dog, but when you get a good one in either breed, they're hard to beat Tell us how u really feel Ben if your culling through that many dogs you need to change something last litter of yello dogs i raised we culled one pup the rest are bayin hogs cant say the same for the last litter of jam up cats produced 2 good ones and 4 culls but will change that in a couple breedings lol Or maybe me and you differ on what a hog dog really is Yep, that's what I was thinking...different standards.
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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2013, 04:09:05 pm » |
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BMC all the way I want touch a spotted dog
The guy asked what is your reason for using one over the other. Your comment about not touching a spotted dog is just an opinionated senseless comment. Do you hate them that much? Have you ever hunted behind some good ones? Why can't you just appreciate a good dog no matter what cur breed he is? So saying you won't touch one , what if Paul Silverton offered you one or Mr. Mason, or River Bottom Catahoulas, or how bout Mikes late dog Tweety? I guess from your comment you wouldn't want nothing to do with any of these dogs.
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"Pedigree indicates what the animal should be. Conformation indicates what the animal appears to be. But PERFORMANCE indicates what the animal actually is."
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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2013, 05:00:36 pm » |
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Dont believe the comment was meant to be in a vain manner. But will allow him to answer that for himself. I will have to speak up on your question in a truthful way. I have hunted with some good cats...NOT MANY.....but as a dog man I will always give credit due to natural performance no matter the breed or how much I pick and joke around. But on a serious note...my complete personal preferences will always be YBMC. Mainly due to my own unique experiences that have proven them to compliment my stlye of hunting in a 360 degree form...including looks. No Malice toward anyone.. but to answer your question about receiving a dog or pup from any one of the highly respected breeders of Catahoulas......I would without question always respectfully decline....My heart isn't with that particular breed. Truthfully the question is loaded from the beginning and cannot be answered without numerous prejudices that come into play from everyone's personal tastes and experiences. There is no right or wrong answer to this or any other VS question when it comes down to it......Only what makes you happy personally. Hope this thread goes back to a lil lighter mood........So I can quit being serious and begin ragging on Kitty Cats again.
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« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2013, 05:56:10 pm » |
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have hunted with some good cats the reason that i stick mainly with the yello dogs is ive been fortunate have had some good brood dogs pretty well just handed to me. when i breed them i know what im getting.the familys throws some get out of town find a hog type dog and will put teeth on them. i may not have as high a standards as some of you. tell you what ill do the next litter i raise there will be from 8to 13 pups in the litter when they get a month old you come pic the pup and when its a year old i will bet you the pup you pick will find a pig on its on. but thats with me training the dog. i do have a couple of cat pups its took me alot of looking to find what i want the female has been on 6 hunts and going to the bays and beginning to really hunt hard i think she will be finding hogs very soon. im not trying to be a smart butt i just know what i have as far as my yello dogs go,the cats are a different thing have seen cats go threw a area and 5min later a yello dog hit the same area and find a hog.but the same can be said the other way im shure there are some fine cats around. i just dont purse them like i do yello dogs. I would like to hunt with someone that only uses jam up cat dogs. not just one or two a good group 5 to 10 of them kind of like a bunch that you could competition hunt.
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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2013, 06:20:10 pm » |
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There's Catahoulas like that out there, whole lines of em that produces the same type of dogs as the Yeller dogs you talk about. If you've got a high producing line, stick with it, but there rare. They may all bark at a pig and find there own hogs young and make decent dogs, all of them, and that's alot of good right there, but that don't make em a hog dog in my book.
If the yeller dogs are more accessible to you, well that's what I'd hunt, same goes for Catahoulas. It's took me alot of culling and alot of miles to get where I'm at. I've got one dog over 3 and one over a year and some pups, ALL virtually a different breed. I've started over and culled just about everything more then once. I don't care ably starting from square one again, because if I'm not satisfied then I won't feed em whether that means I won't catch another pig for a year, so be it. That's all I'm saying. Plenty of dogs find pigs, but that dont mean there a hog dog.
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« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2013, 07:14:39 pm » |
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I have both Black Mouths and Catahoula's. Have seen some very good dogs in both breeds. Out of good stock I wouldn't turn down a prospect in either breed. 70 years old and still catching hogs. Know a lot of people with Black Mouths that Has some great dogs, also know a lot of people that has some outstanding Catahoula's but in either breed you will never see they in the classifieds.
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« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2013, 07:28:28 pm » |
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There's Catahoulas like that out there, whole lines of em that produces the same type of dogs as the Yeller dogs you talk about. If you've got a high producing line, stick with it, but there rare. They may all bark at a pig and find there own hogs young and make decent dogs, all of them, and that's alot of good right there, but that don't make em a hog dog in my book.
If the yeller dogs are more accessible to you, well that's what I'd hunt, same goes for Catahoulas. It's took me alot of culling and alot of miles to get where I'm at. I've got one dog over 3 and one over a year and some pups, ALL virtually a different breed. I've started over and culled just about everything more then once. I don't care ably starting from square one again, because if I'm not satisfied then I won't feed em whether that means I won't catch another pig for a year, so be it. That's all I'm saying. Plenty of dogs find pigs, but that dont mean there a hog dog.
I bought and culled from both of these breeds and never really found what I liked...seems the cull rate was real high for some of these dogs back then...and I saw lots of these dogs go through the woods and just keep on trucking and someone else come right behind with their pack of dogs and they open a few times on top of the other dogs tracks and bam...hogs running everywhere...but as many people that like the yellows and the cats I am sure there are more good lines out there than ever before...I always say I like a dog that knows how to find a hog if it is there...I have seen some dogs that stay busy but don't find many hogs...friend of mine calls them brush beaters...another friend of mine has a nice looking bmc pup that is coming on and he has 1/4 plott...I am sure the cull rate can run higher in some breeds...more so than others....
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2013, 07:29:29 pm » |
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I have both Black Mouths and Catahoula's. Have seen some very good dogs in both breeds. Out of good stock I wouldn't turn down a prospect in either breed. 70 years old and still catching hogs. Know a lot of people with Black Mouths that Has some great dogs, also know a lot of people that has some outstanding Catahoula's but in either breed you will never see they in the classifieds.
That's Wisdom! You pass on a dog because of its breed....
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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2013, 07:43:49 pm » |
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I have both Black Mouths and Catahoula's. Have seen some very good dogs in both breeds. Out of good stock I wouldn't turn down a prospect in either breed. 70 years old and still catching hogs. Know a lot of people with Black Mouths that Has some great dogs, also know a lot of people that has some outstanding Catahoula's but in either breed you will never see they in the classifieds.
That's Wisdom! You pass on a dog because of its breed.... exactly!!!! someone like me learns from the old dudes that tried it all and stick to what works. just look at that rig that mr.Boland has. the shock on dog box is genius, or Mr Masons catdo catch dog. never waste any energy never barks never even has a hint of excitement until he's cut loose. from me.....who else. tapatalk
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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2013, 07:58:51 pm » |
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BA-IV " Plenty of dogs find pigs, but that dont mean there a hog dog."
Lol please explain this.....and what those dogs are called!!!??? The Original Setxhogdogs
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2013, 08:08:25 pm » |
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I figured I'd ruffle a few feathers with this post.
A HOG DOG is a hog dog period. You may think any dog that finds a hog is one, and then one day you'll have your eyes opened and you won't look at dogs the same no more. Best I can tell you.
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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2013, 08:12:59 pm » |
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Jimco ok I didn't want too start nothing that is my opinion I don't like a spotted dog iv had a couple back in the day I didn't like em yes I hunted with a few good cats but if they said they would give them to me I wouldn't take them I don't like lookin at a spotted dog il stay with my yella dogs just my opinion sorry if I piss any body off don't mean to start no sh$$ or I wouldn't of posted nothing
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2013, 08:16:21 pm » |
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BA-IV " Plenty of dogs find pigs, but that dont mean there a hog dog."
Lol please explain this.....and what those dogs are called!!!??? The Original Setxhogdogs
I'll elaborate... There's tons of dogs that will take a smoking hot track, or get dumped where hogs are under every bush. They'll find a hog, hog breaks, dog runs it a little bit, quits and comes back. To me that a cull, not a hog dog. A hog dog will find it and bay it, if that hog wants to run and can't be "stopped", that dog will run it till it's lungs are deflated and be there bayed when you get there... whether its 5 minutes or 5 hours. Finding a hog is only part of the package.
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