Looking for Grey Brahman show heifer

[Bar R Ranch]

If I may ask why a Brahman? 

I'd check out the breed website you should be able to find a list off breeders there
if not there look in the back of an issue of the gulf cost cattleman or the cattleman mags and try those ranches that would give you a good start

Why a Brahman?

In my pasture, with the exception of a few novelty cows ( Watusi ), I have grey Brahman, and F1 Brafords.  The heifer that she shows will end up in our pasture, and the HLSR does not have a class for F1 Braford in 2014, only leaving the Brahman as an option.

I have spoken at length with Chris, the president of ABBA, and he has given me a few leads to check out.  I just figured I would post up here and see what the ETHD knowledge base might have to offer in addition to my previous research.


BTW, thanks for the PM's that I have received, I will follow up with the contacts that have been provided thus far.

I think what you are calling a F1 braford is just a F1 tigerstripe. Brafords are a breed unto themselves much like brangus. Brafords are not half brahman and half hereford. They even have a registry for them.

[Circle C]

If I may ask why a Brahman? 

I'd check out the breed website you should be able to find a list off breeders there
if not there look in the back of an issue of the gulf cost cattleman or the cattleman mags and try those ranches that would give you a good start

Why a Brahman?

In my pasture, with the exception of a few novelty cows ( Watusi ), I have grey Brahman, and F1 Brafords.  The heifer that she shows will end up in our pasture, and the HLSR does not have a class for F1 Braford in 2014, only leaving the Brahman as an option.

I have spoken at length with Chris, the president of ABBA, and he has given me a few leads to check out.  I just figured I would post up here and see what the ETHD knowledge base might have to offer in addition to my previous research.


BTW, thanks for the PM's that I have received, I will follow up with the contacts that have been provided thus far.

I think what you are calling a F1 braford is just a F1 tigerstripe. Brafords are a breed unto themselves much like brangus. Brafords are not half brahman and half hereford. They even have a registry for them.

Help me out here....   It won't be the first time I have been wrong about something...

You are correct, mine are  1/2 brahman 1/2 hereford aka F1 Braford aka F1 Tigerstripe

Braford = a breed unto itself, I understand this to be  ~ 3/8 brahman 5/8 hereford

However,   To my knowledge, the term F1 Braford and F1 tigerstripe have always been interchangeable, and used to reference a 1st generation cross of a brahman/hereford.  I also use the term F1 Brangus to reference a brahman/angus cross.

Here's a link that somewhat supports the use of the "F1 Braford" as an accepted term.
http://www.cattlerange.com/B-Tigerstripe.html

[Circle C]

why not a braford? Check With Rock rest Ranch in Malakoff, Tx. They are Great People, and not to mention have a few good brafords to choose from!

Spencer,

    I'm in the process of getting the few Brahman that I have into the ABBA Golden Certified F1 / Certified F1 program. I figured that if I am going to have to spend the coin on a show heifer, that she might as well be able to contribute to my "program".   

[Spencer]

why not a braford? Check With Rock rest Ranch in Malakoff, Tx. They are Great People, and not to mention have a few good brafords to choose from!

Spencer,

    I'm in the process of getting the few Brahman that I have into the ABBA Golden Certified F1 / Certified F1 program. I figured that if I am going to have to spend the coin on a show heifer, that she might as well be able to contribute to my "program".   

I hear ya. Finding a good brahman wont be too hard, but finding a darn good one that don't cost an arm and leg will be hard. The good ones are expensive.

[Bar R Ranch]

If I may ask why a Brahman? 

I'd check out the breed website you should be able to find a list off breeders there
if not there look in the back of an issue of the gulf cost cattleman or the cattleman mags and try those ranches that would give you a good start

Why a Brahman?

In my pasture, with the exception of a few novelty cows ( Watusi ), I have grey Brahman, and F1 Brafords.  The heifer that she shows will end up in our pasture, and the HLSR does not have a class for F1 Braford in 2014, only leaving the Brahman as an option.

I have spoken at length with Chris, the president of ABBA, and he has given me a few leads to check out.  I just figured I would post up here and see what the ETHD knowledge base might have to offer in addition to my previous research.


BTW, thanks for the PM's that I have received, I will follow up with the contacts that have been provided thus far.

I think what you are calling a F1 braford is just a F1 tigerstripe. Brafords are a breed unto themselves much like brangus. Brafords are not half brahman and half hereford. They even have a registry for them.

Help me out here....   It won't be the first time I have been wrong about something...

You are correct, mine are  1/2 brahman 1/2 hereford aka F1 Braford aka F1 Tigerstripe

Braford = a breed unto itself, I understand this to be  ~ 3/8 brahman 5/8 hereford

However,   To my knowledge, the term F1 Braford and F1 tigerstripe have always been interchangeable, and used to reference a 1st generation cross of a brahman/hereford.  I also use the term F1 Brangus to reference a brahman/angus cross.

Here's a link that somewhat supports the use of the "F1 Braford" as an accepted term.
http://www.cattlerange.com/B-Tigerstripe.html

I gotcha... I guess the lingo just varies by location. Nice looking cattle by the way.

[ChaseG]

If you change your mind or anyone else lookin for show calves that ain't slick haired and big eared  we raise calves and show our own. Mostly Simmental and club calf crosses but we have got some good calves on the ground right now. And we're not a "big" show breeder so it won't cost an arm And a leg. But we've been doin pretty good here lately

[Spencer]

why not a braford? Check With Rock rest Ranch in Malakoff, Tx. They are Great People, and not to mention have a few good brafords to choose from!

Spencer,

    I'm in the process of getting the few Brahman that I have into the ABBA Golden Certified F1 / Certified F1 program. I figured that if I am going to have to spend the coin on a show heifer, that she might as well be able to contribute to my "program".   

I tell you what, your a smart man, the F1 are hard to beat when it comes to raising a herd of good cattle. Its just hard for me to like a Brahman. My wife swears up and down when we have kids that they will show a brahman. I told my wife that there is only two types of brahmans, they are either dog gentle or Nuckin Fut's ! Growing up i showed simmental and angus.

[Circle C]

why not a braford? Check With Rock rest Ranch in Malakoff, Tx. They are Great People, and not to mention have a few good brafords to choose from!

Spencer,

    I'm in the process of getting the few Brahman that I have into the ABBA Golden Certified F1 / Certified F1 program. I figured that if I am going to have to spend the coin on a show heifer, that she might as well be able to contribute to my "program".   

I tell you what, your a smart man, the F1 are hard to beat when it comes to raising a herd of good cattle. Its just hard for me to like a Brahman. My wife swears up and down when we have kids that they will show a brahman. I told my wife that there is only two types of brahmans, they are either dog gentle or Nuckin Fut's ! Growing up i showed simmental and angus.

I read this quote the other day, and there sure seems to be some truth to it... the context was about a guy asking about raising F1, and wondering if there is a market for raising some if the bulls.

""Whoa I love a Brimmer cow but I quit the tigers years ago, those boys look like they would fight a chain saw.
If you have never owned or worked Tigers you need a mentor, you lead Tigers not force them and you had better have some stud horse stout working pens. There is not a finer momma cow in the world, I guess I never thought about the bull angle, be easier to handle one nut case, but that is a whole lot of bad ass if his fuse gets lit.""

That said, I am always more alert when around eared cattle, but my worst experiences have been with some charlois that I helped work a couple years ago.

[Easttex91]

Out of all the animals I showed there was only one I couldn't break it was an F-1 heifer and she was frikin NUTS. After a month of "working" with her I still couldn't go in the pen with her and couldn't let her out of the tall metal cattle panels cause the b**** would go through a barb wire fence like it wasn't there.

[Circle C]

Thanks to this post and the resulting PM's, we were able to locate a heifer for my daughter at Bar W Ranch in Devine, TX

Here's a pic of her getting settled in at our place.

[grittydog]

She is a good looking heifer, I hope yall place well with her.

[country man 563]

She sure does have some legs on her... good luck and hope ya'll bring home the blue ribbon

[Easttex91]

She's pretty is she halter broke?

[Circle C]

She is not halter broke... However, she has been pretty calm through the entire process so far.  We have her in a 40x80 pen next to the barn with a couple of other gentle heifers, and just going to take things slow and easy at first. She is inquisitive enough that she will walk up and sniff a treat from your hand, but will not eat one. If it turns out that halter breaking her is more than we can handle, we will send her to a fitter down in Wharton.

[boarwild]

She looks good Chris.  Hope your daughter enjoys and learns a lot with her project.  Good luck!

[Easttex91]

She is not halter broke... However, she has been pretty calm through the entire process so far.  We have her in a 40x80 pen next to the barn with a couple of other gentle heifers, and just going to take things slow and easy at first. She is inquisitive enough that she will walk up and sniff a treat from your hand, but will not eat one. If it turns out that halter breaking her is more than we can handle, we will send her to a fitter down in Wharton.

Just a thought if u have a donkey they're the easiest way to break a stubborn one. 3 or 4 days on the donkey and she's goin wherever that lead rope goes

[Circle C]

Thought I would post a little update on the heifer.

As for temperament, she has her moments, but all in all we have been very please with her progress.  She is cautious of strangers, but has really taken to my daughter.

She has her first prospect show in two weeks.  Still working on getting some more cover on her. Right now she weighs 894#, it'll be interesting to see what she weighs by the time HLSR rolls around.

[country man 563]

What ya'll feeding?

[Rooster79]

Looking good. I remember those days, dang brahmers would embarrass me at show time. One second they are calm cool and collected, the next second they are dragging your butt through the fair grounds. Here is a pic of my great grandfather and his sons with one of their show bulls back in the 60s. They use to make them a little different back then.

[Colby]

Hey she looks great my daughters show them and love them I hope to see you at a show I'm always looking for someone to talk to . Are y'all going to H.O.T in Waco