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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2009, 06:41:09 pm »

Cutter Bay Kennels - Good points..
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2009, 09:06:38 pm »

There is a big difference between pure Russians and crosses. I helped out a fellow that breed imported Russian Blacks. They have a lot different temperament than any thing I had ever seen. These hogs were between 200lbs and 300lbs. They were athletic, quick and plum nasty. I would be very careful in this heat to put my dogs in a high fenced area with a dozen trophy hogs. The first one or two might be OK, but as the dogs loose stamina running down trophy boar your odds are not good. Fresh trophy hog after fresh trophy hog your dogs are going to loose the advantage. I guarantee those pure russian boar will cull your pack for you.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2009, 09:23:30 pm »

pork  is pork in a pen swamp in the  middle on i 10 under the trinty river bridge lol i am like buddybegone i dont feed them to catch babies
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2009, 10:40:01 pm »

i like doing for only about an hr or two. the dogs get hot quick. like black gold said there are a lot of trails and the dogs do have to work out a track. it does teach them to get out and go hunting cause you are dropping them in hog heavy areas. when they are leaving and baying i take them to the woods with older dogs. the pen is to tune them up and to get them going. my job makes it to where i don't get to hunt as much as i like. so when i drop the dogs i want them on hogs. i use the pen to get their minds right when they have had a long lay off. we can't take the hogs out so we use it teach them to bay and to stop a hog. these hogs like to run so this teaches them to stop a hog. it doesn't help them to take an old track, but i dont' run hounds so i don't need a cold nose dog.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2009, 07:31:51 am »

I agree. Some of the longest chases ive seen were in a high fence. Sometimes they will run the same loop over and over. Sometimes it is better for the hunters to spread out and you can see the hog and try to rope him or run over him if he wont bay up.  Shocked Regardless it is still a BALL.
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2009, 07:55:45 am »

The thing about high fenced pigs is they run from one side of the property to the other back and forth especially if they have lived there a while. almost everytime they will hide in the same 2-3 places. if you send out the pack and keep a couple of catch dogs and stand about around the area where you jumped him not everytime but most of the time you can catch him circling back to his original hiding spot.
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2009, 11:29:18 am »

That's right that is when you as a hunter will figure out that animals have a pattern and are creatures of habits. People that run and run the same hog that can't catch him know what he does cause he has the same pattern. That is where we have the advantage.

We use to have a 100 acre pen where we started all of dogs or hunted to tuned them up during deer season. We always knew where they were and the paths they took got hot they went to the water to a quick dip and ran out as quick as they went in.

Truth is the biggest difference was that these hogs ran like the devil. Stopped for no one or anything. So you knew you had to have a couple of gritty dogs to stop and catch them. This is where we learned to breed for grit and stamina cause some of these races lasted for a couple of hours. It was something we enjoyed and learned from. Was a great culling process for what we were looking for.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2009, 01:54:21 pm »

Hogs are hogs...in a fence or free ranging.....no matter.....I would eat it up....I feed my dogs to hunt anytime and anywhere...... Grin I have caught several "toothy" hogs.....lol
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2009, 09:59:02 pm »

If you dont go call me I will.

High fence means nothing, the question is; is it supposed to be hog proof, height makes no difference, they can go under the highest fence just as easy as a low fence.

If it was me I wouldnt think twice about it, 90% of the land i hunt is high fence and it means 0 to a hog unless they try to make it hog proof. The best hog proofed ranches I have seen are low fence places.

I use the term "hog proof" very tongue in cheek.

Really size and numbers dont matter to me unless there is 0 hogs on a place, then what the point.

Start your younger dogs, kill some hogs, then when you get some killed out and they get harder to catch use your older dogs.
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2009, 09:34:03 am »

no no no , he wont let me kill any hogs , its training only .it is hog proof . i cant find the woods hogs, they have gone on vacation for the summer .  thought it would be fun to get some training in without covering alot of ground . im just afraid its gonna be loaded with dog killing europeans and the dogs educations will be cut short .
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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2009, 09:56:14 am »

John,

     I might should have mentioned in my response that my dogs are loose baying. I don't worry about them trying to catch before a bulldog gets there.  If I was running rough cur dogs, then I might not use that setup for "training/ conditioning".
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