Any game wardens watching this site?

[Box R Outfitters]

 here i am again,i read all your post and i do believe game wardens are just human too!!!! but there is no reason to be rude or pat someone down if they havent done anything wrong-- they cant treat every person like a criminal  BECAUSE EVERY PERSON IS NOT A CRIMINAL!!!!!!!  i have 2 friends who are wardens  they are regular guys but i know one who i have had about 3 dealings with who is a  A__ hole deluxe and all the other police agencies hate him as well!!!!!!!  NO GAME WARDEN HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE LAWS AS HE SEE FIT PERIOD!!!!!!     ((((( THEY AINT THE LAW  THEY JUST ENFORCE IT))))) and your ight you DO NOT have to have a liscense if your doing damage control on private property!!!!!

[tpc0722]

One of our close family friends is a game warden and he isn't out there tryin to give hunters, of all kinds, any trouble he just wants everybody to follow the law. He is definintly on the hunter's side. He lives on some land adjecent to our camp in camden, al and he hunts deer during season and pigs the rest of the year and he has taught me alot about the sport. So at least there are some good ones out there but there are alot who just like to give people (hunters) a hard time.

[southtexasff]

I'd like to hear one explain why.

Just like WAARHEID said... they could loose there job from what I understand. Their job is to enforce the law... not advise it.

Maybe some of our LEO members can elaborate on this???

It is as important to advise the law as to enforce it.  i work for the sheriff's dept,  we have people who we deal with who are know it alls and say their gonna do this or do that, we have to explain the law to them and the consequences they could face. 

[Noah]

As many bad run ins as I've had with wardens/marine patrol, I cannot imagine doing their job... it is an extremely dangerous job, dealing with some(potentially) deadly suspects... suspects that could kill you over, nothing more, than a poached animal...

I respect the law, and those who enforce it... as long as they have the discretion to differentiate between "habitual" and "uneducated".   I encourage all game officers to look at the "big picture".  Our youth deserves a greater "tolerance" to infractions than the "educated" habitual offender.

As most know as well, there are many laws that are passed because of miss informed or corrupt beaurocracy, by which wardens are put in the precarious position to enforce unjust laws.

Bayed up, I appreciate the acknowledgement, I wish more wardens could feel comfortable enough to speak to the public to build that relationship.  Our society has somehow built a wall between us however....

[jlingle]

Our local game warden is absolutely straight as an arrow.  Period, end of story..... obey the law or else.  He would probably write his own mother a ticket.  I love the guy.  We get along like peas and carrots.  Heck, I figure as long as you know how he is & that he'll treat you the same as he would anyone else, what've you got to complain about?  If you ain't breaking the law, you ain't got a problem with this guy.  If I ever have any question about the legality of something, I just call him and ask.  He knows me and he knows I try to follow the law.  He's told me a few times that what I was going to do would get me into trouble, and he's told me a few times that what I was about to do was fine.  He also helped us get a law changed in Oklahoma, allowing us to catch bait easier for catfishing use. 

Most game wardens are a lot like us & they've got a great head on their shoulders.  They aren't goofy "clods" out there trying to ruin our good time.  Most of the time, anyway.  I know of one warden in an adjoining county that is an idiot, but heck.... who can't say that about any other profession?  If it makes any of the other Okies feel better, I called in on this warden that gave some friends of mine fits & the head of the wildlife law enforcement division addressed the situation & within 10 minutes called me back and told me it had been fixed & to call again with any other problems.  Our state dept. of wildlife is full of great folks & they're on our side.  We just need to remember to be respectful and informative to them, and help them to understand how we hunt as well.  Not all of them know or understand what we do.

[hogtied]

I run into a few game wardens that hunt hogs with dogs, even sold one a dog... its just like anything else tho, some are good and some are bad, and I have had plenty fines from them!!! some of them just hassass folks for no reason, but for the most part they are just doing their job and protecting our way of life, without them the woods would be corrupt in most places... they are sneaky tho!!! Had an hour long visit with one about his dogs and hogs he caught... traded stories, was a real good guy, then suspended my license for not having a hunter safety card!!! 

[Black Gold]

I've been in Law Enforcement since 2000 and have worked with other officers both good and bad.  LEO's are people too.....good apples and rotten ones. 

There is a difference in stating and explaining the law vs. giving personal opinion.  As a cop I have an obligation to explain the law to someone I feel does not have a clear understanding.....This is done for the benefit of the individual more than anything.

Here's an example:

Pull over a motorcyclist on his Harley and explain that going 20 MPH over the speed limit is against the law.  May thow in something like, "Speeding is the number one cause for accidents on this stretch of roadway." or something similar.

Pull over the same motorcycle and say something like, "Motorcycles are the reason there are so many accidents around here.  I cant stand people riding motorcycles....would like to give them all tickets."
NOW I've crossed a line and went from enforcing law to enforcing a personal agenda...which borders on profiling and civil rights violations.  BIG PROBLEM!

If a Game Warden made a comment like that to me I'd ask for his supervisor's name and contact number and definately get the Warden's name and badge number.  An official complaint would be made with both his supervisor and with headquarters in Austin the next morning.

Other issue:

If the officer remains correct in his actions and comments I see nothing wrong with being extra cautious like a frisk for weapons.  I frisk a large percentage of people I stop (outside of a traffic stop) under the umbrella of "officer safety".......Have someone pull a gun and shoot at you during a call will make anyone a little extra cautious.....TRUST ME.........If it is done for officer safety I see no problem with officers going the extra step to stay safe......

[matt_aggie04]

Cody I like that anology, I think that there is a real problem when LEO's start pushing their personal opinion.
MG

[Noah]

One of our notorious old game wardens around here was chosen because of how well he poached... he had done everything imaginable and it made him especially good at knowing who, what, where, and when to look for  

This old guy took to hunting people just as he did to hunting animals... no holds barred