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« on: April 29, 2013, 10:33:57 pm » |
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I haven't been faced with this so I'm looking for suggestions and wisdom on the topic. Here's the scenario. For the last three hunts we have bayed sounders of sows and pigs. In this area little pigs are a year around thing. So the problem is when they bay up my two dogs will grab up a pig each and let the hogs roll out, twice even while other dogs stay with the bigger hog. The dogs are 2.5 and 3.5. And the breed shouldn't matter but they are YBMC and a Lacy in case u think it does. I also hunt jagds which are gamey/trashy little boogers and never had this problem. So far the advise I've gotten ranges from e- collar therapy to putting a striper in the kennel with the offending dogs. What does the infinite wisdom of the board say?
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SwampHunter
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 10:57:31 pm » |
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A hog is a hog , the dog dosent care about the size it's a hog , either sell the dogs or live with it an be happy you catch something ,
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 11:38:06 pm » |
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Nature dictates in a predator situation u go for the easy kill. Get a belly full and live to hunt another day. If every predator went for the biggest there would be far less predators.
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Shotgun
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Black Smith
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 12:25:10 am » |
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My belief is some dogs will kill pigs and some won't. I don't like them killing pigs but it is better than trashing!!!!!!
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AnotherRunner
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 12:59:17 am » |
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Nature dictates in a predator situation u go for the easy kill. Get a belly full and live to hunt another day. If every predator went for the biggest there would be far less predators.
X2 well said. If you were a dog would you try and catch a 200lb boar with teeth or a little shoat;D;D usually they always go for the easiest catch
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Catch em, tie em, drag em out!
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Lacy man
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 06:54:08 am » |
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A hog is a hog , the dog dosent care about the size it's a hog , either sell the dogs or live with it an be happy you catch something ,
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Irondog87
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 07:03:10 am » |
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My belief is some dogs will kill pigs and some won't. I don't like them killing pigs but it is better than trashing!!!!!!
x2 But the quickest way to fix the problem is to cull I got a spot for that BMC at my place If he don't work out for you. Let me know I could use him. 9032536751
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charles
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 08:12:07 am » |
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I dont if it would work, but as soon as u get to ea of them, if the pig is still alive, dispatch it, take it away from them, snap a lead or just grab by the collar n pull them away, telln them caught hog. Once u get both of the away, try n lead them in the direction the other dogs rolled out to n then let go, hopefully they wont go back to the dead 1s. I do agree though, u r catchin hogs, mite not be the biggest but a hog is a hog n they dont know the diff between big n little. Survival of fittest.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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hillbilly
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 10:42:48 am » |
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Muzzle them is the only way I know. Old timers use to would kill pig killing dogs
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 01:03:34 pm » |
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Old timers use to plow with a horse and had no electricity also. Some of the stuff old timers did was a direct result of the conditions they were living in and lived thru.
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Shotgun
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red79
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 01:36:39 pm » |
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Kill the pigs and let ur dogs roll out not that hard to figure out
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hillbilly
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 01:52:17 pm » |
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Old timers use to plow with a horse and had no electricity also. Some of the stuff old timers did was a direct result of the conditions they were living in and lived thru.
Yea if it wasn't for old timers you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't be catching hogs today. You should thank every oldtimer you see because they are the reason you sitting in the air condition on a computer.
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charles
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 02:16:00 pm » |
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A muzzle may or may not work. I was told the same thing, but my dog final scratched the leather strap apart n pulled the muzzle off. Not sayin it wont work, just didnt work for my dog n hav slso head it could get the dog killed. I dont if the dog gettn killed could happen, but i didnt take the chance n just let him be a rcd for a lil while. I agree with shotgun too. The old days folks used what resources were available at the time n red79 is correct too, but it may take a lil encouragement from u to get the dogs to leave the dead pig.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 02:27:23 pm » |
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Kill the pigs and let ur dogs roll out not that hard to figure out
That's a given! In fact I do Scold them, and pick them up. Since the race has normally moved out by then I run them up the track and put them back in the race. I mean some things are going to be obvious like culling,or the above comment. And yes on hogs they will both roll out when the catch dog gets there.
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hillbilly
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013, 03:21:35 pm » |
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Different strokes for different folks I guess. My dogs do kill pigs sometimes but I do not like it at all. I prefer my dogs to bay any size hog. I don't kill hogs unless I am going to eat it. I like to hog hunt to much to kill every hog.
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PLP
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 07:24:58 pm » |
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Different strokes for different folks I guess. My dogs do kill pigs sometimes but I do not like it at all. I prefer my dogs to bay any size hog. I don't kill hogs unless I am going to eat it. I like to hog hunt to much to kill every hog.
The pigs are typically dead when I get there. I must admit they are great for the grill if they aren't chewed up too bad. It's just not what I'd prefer. Thanks for the insight.
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Reuben
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 07:33:38 pm » |
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This will probably work...have the dogs bay a big hog in a bay pen and praise them...then put the dogs on a small shoat and give them some shock therapy and a scolding...a few to three times and they probably will catch on...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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PLP
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2013, 07:47:56 pm » |
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Thanks Reuben.
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Bowtech99
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You Eat rabbit? Lil hog same size, skin it an eat it. Simple. Usually they come in a package deal so you get more than one.
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I think it all just depends on the dog some you can teach em not to but some you can't...had a pair of dogs that we raised and trained just like the other litters male an gyp... They would catch pigs all day long an bring em to ya unharmed their litter mates would run through em like a snack and so would every dog on our place except these 2 beats all I ever seen... It was just like playing fetch with em.. If it was too big for them to grab but still small they would hold it down with their feet and bay it till you got there.
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