fewnproud
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« on: May 10, 2013, 08:46:18 pm » |
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So im new to the ethd forum and i had a few questions about starting out. Got me a decent little pack goin, couple started dogs, nothing burn up in the woods or anything. Theyve caught hog for me every now and then. I was wondering if anyone can help me out on training tips for roading dogs and keeping them ahead hunting in front of the truck and also suggestions on cut gear. Thanx
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 10:23:19 pm » |
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if your roading the dogs if there's hot scent coming across the road just stop an drive stop an drive . this takes a while for them to learn other way is rangy dogs our the other thing would be to drag hog scent on a road for a 1/2 mile an make it turn into a mock hunt . racing to road is not the big problem having a dog that finishes the tract off the road will to dive an any kind of brush. i work hunt so maybe some of the others members will help more on this ..
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 10:30:24 pm » |
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May sound crazy but if they are behind stop and tell them get ahead. Once they get up front start easing up. If they get behind repeat as necessary. Once one figures it out it will help the others. If u have a wheeler it may be easier to do than a truck. Easier to get off and help them up front( boot to hind end)(green switch to the tail just enough to move em up).
Disclaimer: I could be dead wrong but it has worked for me.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 10:36:52 pm » |
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One more thing. Don't get in a hurry. I find 5mph is plenty fast. Gives the dogs time to hunt as u go. Watch ur dogs close. Any intrest in a spot or smell or a head thrown up stop and cut off ride for a min to see what they do. If u run to fast or don't give them time to work out faint smells u could be pushing them past hogs. A dead wheeler or truck will become the signal to look some more. A running truck or wheeler will become the command of get ahead.
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AnotherRunner
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 10:46:08 pm » |
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We road a lot, like shotgun said just tell them to get ahead. Go real slow when they get interested, you see them winding or head up and they take off into the woods kill the wheeler. Let them do their thing and if its nothing and they come back out crank up and move on.
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Catch em, tie em, drag em out!
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fewnproud
Hog Dog Pup
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2013, 12:10:24 am » |
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Thanx for the feedback. I have acouple dogs staying ahead pretty good, 1 or 2 that might need the boot more than the others. I will definantly keep trying this and once again thanx for the feed back.
Another thing.
What breed do you guys use as far as strike dogs. And how can you tell if your dog has a so called cold nose. I have mainly blackmouth but i hear of alot of guys with jam up dogs having atleast 1/4 Plot in their dogs. Why is that? Just trying to mix with hound because if their noses?
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 01:44:48 am » |
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know u don't need plott mixes to make a jam up dog.lol. just hunt your pack hard they turn on better keeping them in the woods. jammed up dogs are made by being hunted. mock hunts helps your packs bond.
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Reuben
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2013, 06:45:52 am » |
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One more thing. Don't get in a hurry. I find 5mph is plenty fast. Gives the dogs time to hunt as u go. Watch ur dogs close. Any intrest in a spot or smell or a head thrown up stop and cut off ride for a min to see what they do. If u run to fast or don't give them time to work out faint smells u could be pushing them past hogs. A dead wheeler or truck will become the signal to look some more. A running truck or wheeler will become the command of get ahead.
x2...always be looking at the dogs...don't get in a hurry and like already said...it is all about the dogs...when the dogs look interested stop and let them work it out...if they go in the woods wait until you hear a strike/bay or until they come back because they couldn't line it out...then you can move on down the road... be consistent so the dogs can know how you work...doing it this way allows the dogs to hunt to their maximum potential... if you move to fast the dogs will learn to not be thorough when hunting because they are more interested in keeping up with you instead of hunting...also teaches them to take hotter tracks...I like the curs to use their nose/hunt to the fullest of their ability... this is how I taught my dogs to run ahead of the truck when I used to road them...I took the pack to the beach way out away from traffic and beach go'ers...I let them out and I would let them run around a short bit...then I would gun/reve up the engine 2 or 3 times and hall butt down the beach for a mile or 1.5 miles and the dogs usually ran 28 mph and I just barely stayed in front of them...when I thought the run was long enough I started slowing down so as soon as one passed me up I stopped and they would stop in frnt of the truck...then always won the race at the end...after a few minutes I woul gun the engine and they roaded out in front of me and I would just follow...This worked with the 4 wheeler also... when hunting/roading the dogs move along at their pace if they have the hunt in them... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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justincorbell
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2013, 09:24:11 am » |
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One more thing. Don't get in a hurry. I find 5mph is plenty fast. Gives the dogs time to hunt as u go. Watch ur dogs close. Any intrest in a spot or smell or a head thrown up stop and cut off ride for a min to see what they do. If u run to fast or don't give them time to work out faint smells u could be pushing them past hogs. A dead wheeler or truck will become the signal to look some more. A running truck or wheeler will become the command of get ahead.
U nailed it shotgun, 5mph is PLENTY fast for my dogs when we road hunt. |
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BigCutters4
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 11:29:06 am » |
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This don't have much to do w roading dogs but its advice be very patient learn from your dogs let them guide you .pay very close attention to them eventually you will be able to read there actions .enjoy the pleasure of working dogs and catching a hog now and then .you don't have to go out and catch 10 a day just enjoy your self good luck man I hope for the best for you
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Reuben
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Good post Bigcutters
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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