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How do u know that breeding a real bad ass hunting dog with another bad ass hunting dog will get you sum bad ass hunting pups. In my opinion if the pups are going to be good, is up to you if you train them right and feed them properly along with their vaccines. It doesnt matter wat cur, hound etc...u breed. If the pup wants to hunt his going to hunt and use his nose. Unless their is facts or ppl having problems with breeding a crap dog to another crap dog and all the pups come out to be no good.
I want to know why ppl always say breed your best dog to your best dog.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 06:44:30 pm » |
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breeding best dog to best dog of no relations, and if they really are good to great dogs, then you probably will get some good dogs but probably a low percentage of good to great dogs...now breeding good to great dogs from line breeding and inbreeding will give you a higher percentage of good dogs and more so the more generations of good dogs in the pedigree...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 07:37:26 pm » |
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My take is this. Best to best gives a man an idea that the pups should be good. It is a reasonable expectation that top notch dogs should produce atleast decent dogs with an chance at very good dogs. Regardless of parents if these pups aren't trained properly the chance of having top notch pups is slim. If u breed junk chances are u are gonna get junk with a slim chance of getting a decent dog.
I don't like breeding papers for one reason. Papers don't catch hogs dogs do. In my opinion who ur great grandpaw or that dogs great grandpaw is doesn't mean u or that dog will work.
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parker
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 07:55:52 pm » |
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even in humans a person will take looks and actions and tendecies of somone in there family usually within a few generations .... when i breed dogs i sure like my chances when the dogs is from generations of working dogs top and bottom and even better if they are related heavily ...... the best breeding practice i know of is if you get a sure nuff dog you like try and breed to clone him or her and get as much likeness as possible to that dog and who knows may even get better ..... but hope to clone or get as close as possible and you'll be ok ...and anyone should have a good idea of the best way to get that done .... extreme line breeding ...
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 08:07:36 pm » |
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breeding best dog to best dog of no relations, and if they really are good to great dogs, then you probably will get some good dogs but probably a low percentage of good to great dogs...now breeding good to great dogs from line breeding and inbreeding will give you a higher percentage of good dogs and more so the more generations of good dogs in the pedigree...
Mr. Reuben for the win! |
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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Reuben
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 08:24:44 pm » |
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Thank you Justin...but Mr. Parker said the exact same thing just a different way of saying the same thing...  |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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justincorbell
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 09:32:12 pm » |
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Thank you Justin...but Mr. Parker said the exact same thing just a different way of saying the same thing... Thats a big 10 4 |
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 02:28:42 pm » |
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Plus the fact that "hunt" is a trait that can be passed to offspring. Not all dogs pass all of their genetic traits to their pups. But you have a better chance if both dogs exhibit the traits that you desire.
You never know if they will pass their good hunting genes to their pups until you breed them and raise the pups. It takes a lot of time, money and work. Its nice to know that your chances are higher than just throwing to dogs together and hoping for the best.
JMO
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 02:32:24 pm » |
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that's true dj a lot of trail and error in this game . seen some mighty fine dogs [ hunt wise ] that was duds in the brood pen and then a few crap eaters that threw awesome pups .
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 05:16:52 pm » |
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Plus the fact that "hunt" is a trait that can be passed to offspring. Not all dogs pass all of their genetic traits to their pups. But you have a better chance if both dogs exhibit the traits that you desire.
You never know if they will pass their good hunting genes to their pups until you breed them and raise the pups. It takes a lot of time, money and work. Its nice to know that your chances are higher than just throwing to dogs together and hoping for the best.
JMO
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dogboy42
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AB with out the bs
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It's done in an attempt to increase the chance of getting a good pup from the breeding. So What do you do with the rest of the litter?  |
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Reuben
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breeding best dog to best dog of no relations, and if they really are good to great dogs, then you probably will get some good dogs but probably a low percentage of good to great dogs...now breeding good to great dogs from line breeding and inbreeding will give you a higher percentage of good dogs and more so the more generations of good dogs in the pedigree...
And like already mentioned when breeding related dogs we should find the best in that line and breed that dog more than any other dog in your line...and a well bred hunting dog doesn't need much training...just show em what you want...we can make training for the most part look easy when we correct or encourage the pup at the right times...a bad handler can ruin a good prospect or at least keep the dog from reaching his maximum potential... I have seen well bred dogs from a good line that after 2 years as a pet make great hog dogs in a few hunts...there are lots of variables...all we have to do is make the right choices to get the most out of a good prospect... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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It's done in an attempt to increase the chance of getting a good pup from the breeding. So What do you do with the rest of the litter? Where are you goin with this question? |
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It's done in an attempt to increase the chance of getting a good pup from the breeding. So What do you do with the rest of the litter? Where are you goin with this question? Can't say that i know either josh, but if he is askin what im thinkin he is then the answer is......when the time comes you find a sharp shovel and dig a hole....... |
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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Well........ Bad A$$ dog to Bad A$$ gyp is gonna get you tickets to the ball game.....but coupled with a Bad A$$ sharp shovel and a Bad A$$ cull program.........will get you front row seats to a Bads A$$ ball game.  |
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Breed right and cull harder there are to many people now days that don't cull hard enough!!! your chances will always be better breeding good dogs to good dogs more so if they are line bred I am not a breeder but been around them all my life and the good ones cull hard!!!
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Reuben
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to be a good breeder one must have hi standards and cull accordingly...and make sure to keep the very best pups for hunting and breeding...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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Well........ Bad A$$ dog to Bad A$$ gyp is gonna get you tickets to the ball game.....but coupled with a Bad A$$ sharp shovel and a Bad A$$ cull program.........will get you front row seats to a Bads A$$ ball game. and if you do all of that right then you just might get to play in that ball game  |
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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if you have to cull alot to start with you have a long long ways to go with a very big maybe attached to get to a consistancey..... 90% of breedings are bred on looks .....only way to get away with breeding that way is to have extremely line bred dogs to start with ....
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