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TexasHogDogs
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« on: May 22, 2013, 09:26:28 pm » |
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I been hunting a pretty good many years now and I got my on opinion but its always good to hear others also .
Now I met ole Tdog and Kyle over in Rockdale today we go to one of Tdogs places. Turn the dogs loose which I had Whitey , Horn , Bell and Little Horn the youngen and Tdog had his two young dogs coming of age and doing well. We lettem out in 20 mins we has the first little hog about 75 lbs . Next thing I know Whitey is gone 1000 yds Horn/Bell is gone 900 in opposite directions and all the young dogs were running wild behind baby pigs every were I mean every were we looked 20 lbs to 60 lbs . It was a pure cluster muck is what it was . We were busy trying to get to young dogs and they were killing pigs I know here and there . Well are hour are so passes and we didn't go to Horn are Whitey which might have been a mistake anyway finally Horn comes back and he joins in killing and chasing pigs every were and this place is thick thick thick brush you can hardly see threw it . Dogs are having a hard time going threw it . Then a little while later Whitey comes back in and she joins in along with Bell . The young dogs were just going crazy . Finally I had enuff and Bell got a little hot on me so I started picking up my old dogs one by one . Then finally we get all the young dogs in .
Now this is just my opinion I myself I don't like to get on masses of pigs like this dogs get scattered every direction everything turns in to a cluster muck and they will run your older dogs in the ground and then they start to get frustrated the older ones do . I could see the frustration on my older dogs faces now the young dogs enjoyed the hell out of it and got a work out of a life time but my older dogs in my opinion don't need that kind of crap . I think it does a older dog more harm sometimes that good to get on these kind of cluster muck hunts . I think from now on when this happens I will pick my older dogs up and just let the young dogs have at the pigs it does them good .
Anyway like I said I could see the frustration on the older dogs faces not to mention it nearly ran them in the ground , I don't like it myself .
Yall's Opinion ?
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 09:31:57 pm » |
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I hate piglets. Dogs split every direction and it drives me crazy.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 09:59:00 pm » |
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Just my opinion i always go to the older dogs first had that happen to me when i was by myself n glad i went to the older ones
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AnotherRunner
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 10:08:53 pm » |
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Just my opinion i always go to the older dogs first had that happen to me when i was by myself n glad i went to the older ones
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AnotherRunner
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 10:09:37 pm » |
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Crap wrong button on last post. We had the same thing happen the other night dogs and pigs everywhere and dogs were I mean burnt slap out in 15 minutes
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Caseylee
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 10:18:38 pm » |
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I agree with ya I hate getting into herds of hogs seems like it never works out right! I like it when they get 1 hog lined out..
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Casey Clinton
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justincorbell
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 10:18:56 pm » |
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Honest question..... Why do you go to the older dogs first at a split bay? Is it due to age/fatigue/ time frame they gas out in or other reasons??
I have always done the exact opposite, not tryin to say my way is right or yours is wrong by any means, just wonderin what your reasoning is......
Mine is this...... i try to get to em all as fast as I can but with the dogs I run only the smart make it to old age, the young dogs often try hogs they shouldn't resulting in injuries and broken bays so I try like hell to get to them first and don't worry as much about the old dogs because i'm far more confident that they will set up on a hog and bay until help arrives...
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 10:30:58 pm » |
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Honest question..... Why do you go to the older dogs first at a split bay? Is it due to age/fatigue/ time frame they gas out in or other reasons??
I have always done the exact opposite, not tryin to say my way is right or yours is wrong by any means, just wonderin what your reasoning is......
Mine is this...... i try to get to em all as fast as I can but with the dogs I run only the smart make it to old age, the young dogs often try hogs they shouldn't resulting in injuries and broken bays so I try like hell to get to them first and don't worry as much about the old dogs because i'm far more confident that they will set up on a hog and bay until help arrives...
I think they mean that the older dogs are smarter and have more experience therefore they go to them first because they have confidence that it will be a hog and more than likely a good one. That's what I got out of it. But I do agree with you young dogs are often over confident and are too rough resulting in some injuries! |
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Lance
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 10:36:52 pm » |
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If the sounder will stay bayed and just move a little ways away each time you catch one and allow you to catch several hogs then I think it's very good for the dogs. That's the easiest way for young dogs to learn to roll out after the catch dogs hit. The CD's hit and the older dogs move with the sounder 50-100 yards away, the pups see the dogs leave on the hogs and can still see and hear them so they go to them instead of hanging around the caught hog. But very few sounders bay up for very long anymore so I will have to agree that it is usually a pain in the butt. Especially if there is 3 or 4 independent real deal strike dogs on the ground and each one leaves on a different hog. It's not so bad during cool weather but it sucks during the summer. Either way I still don't like getting on sows and pigs. I would rather hunt all day long and catch one good boar or barr that catch 10 sows !
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TexasHogDogs
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 11:15:48 pm » |
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These pigs here were running machines wasnt no baying up they went in every different directions and I think the only big hogs that were got on were got on after the first one we got they rolled out but the young dogs stayed chasing all the little pigs . Like Lance says its not so bad in the cooler weather but you get on groups like this we were on today were nobody bays and they all go in different directions two three different groups of hogs and you got independent older dogs they each go after a different bigger hog its a real real pain in the back end . I dont like my older dogs on these kinds of pigs in hot weather it just aint worth getting a good good dog burnt up over three are four 75/100 lb pigs running in every different directions . It seemed like there were pigs coming out from under every brush pile . Now the young dogs it gets them excited and it gets their piggen on and they learn in a hurry what they are hunting and it puts some legs under them and its just good for them to get it set in their minds what they are doing but I dont like wasting my good older dogs on a bunch of shoats and 100 lb pigs that is running them to death . If a dog is old enuff to go to the woods then if he gets on a big one gets gritty and cant handle it and gets his ass handed to him that is just part of it and a lesson set in his head and he learned it in the woods he will remember it .
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TexasHogDogs
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Honest question..... Why do you go to the older dogs first at a split bay? Is it due to age/fatigue/ time frame they gas out in or other reasons??
I have always done the exact opposite, not tryin to say my way is right or yours is wrong by any means, just wonderin what your reasoning is......
Mine is this...... i try to get to em all as fast as I can but with the dogs I run only the smart make it to old age, the young dogs often try hogs they shouldn't resulting in injuries and broken bays so I try like hell to get to them first and don't worry as much about the old dogs because i'm far more confident that they will set up on a hog and bay until help arrives...
Justin , if it would have been me on my hunt on my place I myself would have went to the older dogs first in a hurry . Why ? Because I know those older dogs of mine are more likely to be on the bigger hogs in the group they always seem to go with the bigger hogs for some reason plus its hot and I need to get to them not leave them hanging. The way I see it the young dogs could have stayed there and played with the pigs and littler hogs till we got back but I was hunting with Tdog on his place and so I went with him . My feeling at the time it was happening is we need to go to the older dogs first but it just didnt work out that way . No big deal its just different strokes for different folks and I was hunting with him not him with me . 99% of the time when something like that happens am gone to my real dogs that I know what they are baying aint much doubts on that . Youngs can stay and play till I get back . |
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Honest question..... Why do you go to the older dogs first at a split bay? Is it due to age/fatigue/ time frame they gas out in or other reasons??
I have always done the exact opposite, not tryin to say my way is right or yours is wrong by any means, just wonderin what your reasoning is......
Mine is this...... i try to get to em all as fast as I can but with the dogs I run only the smart make it to old age, the young dogs often try hogs they shouldn't resulting in injuries and broken bays so I try like hell to get to them first and don't worry as much about the old dogs because i'm far more confident that they will set up on a hog and bay until help arrives...
Justin , if it would have been me on my hunt on my place I myself would have went to the older dogs first in a hurry . Why ? Because I know those older dogs of mine are more likely to be on the bigger hogs in the group they always seem to go with the bigger hogs for some reason plus its hot and I need to get to them not leave them hanging. The way I see it the young dogs could have stayed there and played with the pigs and littler hogs till we got back but I was hunting with Tdog on his place and so I went with him . My feeling at the time it was happening is we need to go to the older dogs first but it just didnt work out that way . No big deal its just different strokes for different folks and I was hunting with him not him with me . 99% of the time when something like that happens am gone to my real dogs that I know what they are baying aint much doubts on that . Youngs can stay and play till I get back . 10 4, hell we would work perfect huntin together lol, u go to the ol geezers and i'll go to the young dummies lol! |
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I'm just the opposite... I'm always going to the pups first. The old dogs know their job... they'll be bayed when I get there.  |
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I'm just the opposite... I'm always going to the pups first. The old dogs know their job... they'll be bayed when I get there. Thats my outlook as well Mr. Mike |
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I'm just the opposite... I'm always going to the pups first. The old dogs know their job... they'll be bayed when I get there. Thats my outlook as well Mr. Mike Yep!! |
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I'm just the opposite... I'm always going to the pups first. The old dogs know their job... they'll be bayed when I get there. Thats my outlook as well Mr. Mike So what do you do when all your chit eaters are young? Haha |
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im with mike , my older dogs know im coming sooner or later Ill be there , the younger dogs dont have that confidence yet and need me to back them up as soon as i can to build this confidence , as for masses of pigs in a area , it doesnt happen to often in oklahoma lol , when I have had dogs all stretched out for miles was because I took to many or to many indapendant dogs , this really sucks on foot , if i only take two they will hunt together in most cases and not be everywere bayed miles apart JMO
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TexasHogDogs
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I think it also has to do with the type of dogs your running mine will catch if they can and that is another reason I go to the older ones. If I knew my dogs would back off for sure then yeah would not be so bad but I have seen two of mine take on 200 lbs with just the right teeth to kill you. With dogs like that to me its just safer for them.
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Every situtation is different. When it's hot I try to have a
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Every situtation is different, when it's hot I generally try to set up for a faster hunt. This does not mean that's how it will work. If hunting by myself I only take 1 dog and 1 pup trying to avoid splits. I hate a pig killing, but it happens. The more pigs I Kill the less their are to reproduce, so its not all bad! Just frustrating. As a rule I go to young dogs first trying to build their confidence! Pups don't have the stamina a older dog has! They get spent fast, they haven't learned to pace their selfs yet. But again every situation is different, and I'm not saying what I do is rite, or what anyone else does is wrong...if its hot and have more dogs on ground and have splits we as hunters usually split as well.
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