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« on: May 29, 2013, 06:57:28 am »

Been told by old timers ivromectin causes hardening of liver for dogs . anyone with info please respond
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 12:38:59 pm »

I know that is a side effect but if administerd properly the bennifts out weigh the risk. All you need is a small amunt to control fleas and ticks. But a little more than that to control gastric parasites 1cc of  ivomec once a month is all you need. Heart gaurd has ivomectin in it but a very small dose something like.0025%.
One thing ivomec is known for is throat cancer so dilute it with water when shooting down throats which to me is best way of administration.  Injection works for cattle but dogs are not cows. So the chance of  intravenous administration is high.

To me personaly ivomec is the best thing that happened to dogs. Can even cure some manges under a different regiment of administration
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 02:29:07 pm »

yes to much can cause liver and kidney damage. 1/10 cc per 10 pounds of body weight.
You can't dillute ivomec no matter how much water you mix it with
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 07:00:25 pm »

Im gonna use this thread for a slightly differnet but relevant question.

What is everyones choice of wormer? and how much you use?

Ivomec?-liquid
Safeguard?-paste
Heartguard?-pill
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 07:10:19 pm »

Im gonna use this thread for a slightly differnet but relevant question.

What is everyones choice of wormer? and how much you use?

Ivomec?-liquid
Safeguard?-paste
Heartguard?-pill

Just keep in mind, of the three you listed, Safeguard does NOT prevent heartworms.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 08:14:35 pm »

And ivomec only gets heartworms
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2013, 08:30:13 pm »

My old time country vet told me to give half a cc ivomec  one Month panacur the next  . Ivomec get heart worms but not tape worms panacur takes care of the tapes . He did tell me to be careful with the ivomec becouse it will mess up there kidneys!!
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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2013, 09:45:30 pm »

Now im using nemex seems to be working .any one know any info on nemex ? I think its a weaker version of strongid t , smells tastes looks the same easy to give to your dogs it taste like banannas
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 06:47:07 am »

I use nemex on all my pups. Great stuff.

I'm leaning towards one heartguard a month. $6 a pill at local feed store
 
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 11:19:38 am »

Ok dilution might have been a a misleading word. BUT (Adding) water DOES making ADMINISTRATION easier.




And for me its ivomectin all the way.

Nemex is to expensive here were I live
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 11:45:20 am »

Been using ivromectin for years and years.  This is my thought to much will ruin your dogs liver.  Also everybody wants to worm dogs with Ivromec but from what I have seen over the years is it is not for the stomach worms really.  The way we used it was each month to help kill and keep the heartworms out .  I give only 1/4 to 1/2 cc  in mouth to my dogs depending on how big they are .  As far as for the stomach worms this is how we used it and thought it worked.  You need to clean your dog out with regular stomach worm like panacure are any type of wormer that works for you then once the stomach worms are clean and you are giving the ivromec once a month for heart worm preventive what the ivromec does as we have seen once the dog is clean of stomach worms it will help keep them clean of stomach worms but just to give ivormec for stomach worms it does not do a very good job but it will dang sure help keep them clean .
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 12:13:53 pm »

My uncle is a vet, and warned me of the possible liver damage a lond time ago when I started using it. I got my lab when she was 8 months old. Had her checked, and started giving her 1/2 cc of Ivomec orally every 30 days during the summer, and every 45 days during the winter. She died from old age at 13 years 3 months and 3 days! Never once had any issues from it. Bulldog lived until 9years and change when she was hit by a car, same routine. I haven't ever had any issues with it. Have cleared up red mange with it also on another bulldog who had it bad.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 08:55:01 pm »

I use ivomec monthly for heart worms. My vet tells me it won't kill intestinal worms if the dog has them but a monthly dose will keep them at bay with the exception of hook worms. Which strongid will do that and that I give every 6 mo. Just be careful buying it cause usually right next to the regular ivomec is the ivomec plus which they say will kill a dog.
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 09:09:15 pm »

Will it for sure prevent fleas?
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 09:14:29 pm »

Yes and ticks they will still try to go on the dog they just we ont hang around
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2013, 10:20:56 pm »

Well hell this whole time Ive been pourin sulfur all over the yard for nothin thinkin I was preventing fleas
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2013, 10:24:50 pm »

Ivomec does not repel or keep ticks from attaching to dogs. There are no properties in Ivomec that work against ticks, nor fleas for that matter. Years and years, myself and others around me have given Ivomec once a month as a heartworm preventative, but it does not repel or kill fleas and ticks, that I know for sure. I've heard a couple folks here and there that are under that misconception, but it is indeed a falsehood.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2013, 07:14:45 am »

Ivomec does not repel or keep ticks from attaching to dogs. There are no properties in Ivomec that work against ticks, nor fleas for that matter. Years and years, myself and others around me have given Ivomec once a month as a heartworm preventative, but it does not repel or kill fleas and ticks, that I know for sure. I've heard a couple folks here and there that are under that misconception, but it is indeed a falsehood.

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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2013, 09:21:52 am »

Nemex and Strongid T are seperate brand names of the same thing...both Pyrantel Pamoate.  You can also find generic Pyrantel Pamoate much cheaper than the name brands.  Go to amazon.com and type in "Pyrantel Pamoate".

Best worming regimen is Ivomec monthly for heartworm prevention, strongid-t (Pyrantel Pamoate) monthly for broad spectrum worming, and tapeworm medication (active ingredient of Praziquantel) as needed.

There is NO single product on the market that is blended and can be dosed correctly to control all three in one administration.
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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2013, 09:40:44 am »

Ivomec does not repel or keep ticks from attaching to dogs. There are no properties in Ivomec that work against ticks, nor fleas for that matter. Years and years, myself and others around me have given Ivomec once a month as a heartworm preventative, but it does not repel or kill fleas and ticks, that I know for sure. I've heard a couple folks here and there that are under that misconception, but it is indeed a falsehood.
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