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rdjustham
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« on: May 31, 2013, 07:09:22 am »

Ive got a three year old blue pit that up until almost a month ago was a great house dog.  Good with my kid, good with my grumpy old female dog and minded real well.  I take him out in the AM when i leave for work and when i get home.  The time frame is sometimes 11 hours sometimes less.  NEVER had a problem with him up until almost a month ago he crapped in the floor.  When i got up he was cawarding in a corner, so i drug him over to his pile, smacked him on the a$$ cleaned it up and called it done.  The dog now acts like hes scared to crap in the yard and I'm on the verge of taking him to the woods.  My kid LOVES this dog and tells me everytime the dogs does it (morning and night mind you) that when he gets old enough he will take care of him and clean it up. 

Anyone got any suggestions on why this dog after three years decided now to not know how to hold it, or how to correct it cause the whoopins have gotten a little more severe and more common and this dog is dancin on my last nerve.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 07:44:10 am »

That don't make much sense to me, wish I could help but I honestly dont know.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 07:48:28 am »

I hear ya justin, ive tried everything i can think of, from whoopins to just not payin him any attention when i have to clean it up.  Hes a 50-60 pound pit that thinks hes a lap dog.  I let him lay on the couch with me and if the ole lady ain there he even gets in the bed, maybe hes just too spoiled..
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 08:02:48 am »

Hell maybe chain him up for a cpl weeks and pay him zero attention other than when feeding him. I have done this in the past to just about every inside dog ive owned......when my lab daisy was young she made a royal mistake by eating a greenhead i had mounted that was displayed on my coffee table.....she went to what i called solitary confinement for 3 weeks and I never had an issue with her chewing anything after that......maybe it'll work with your knucklehead and his bowel movements.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 09:00:42 am »

I really don't know the answer but I would cut his feed back and then I would make him stay outside and only bring him in after I saw the poop in the yard...

also might help if you put some of his poop where you want him to go do his business...

cut his feed back until he looks fit and not over weight...too much feed will make a soft stool and more of it...not to mention more often...
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 09:16:10 am »

Reuben hes by no means fat, he gets the same feed hes always gotten and he definately knows where hes suppose to do his buisness.  IM thinkin of goin back to kenneling him during the day like i did when he was younger.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 09:18:20 am »

I reckon some the most important things to do is to be consistent when feeding and when letting the dog out...also how much to feed and try to keep the food the same as much as possible...changing feed can cause stomach problems and then that will cause an accident...this is about how we train our indoor dogs...
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2013, 09:19:51 am »

oops...I posted right on top of your post before I saw what your reply was...
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013, 11:57:43 am »

Kennel him in a crate if you're gonna leave him inside while you're gone. Do not feed him in the morning, feed him right when you get home. Make sure the crate is small enough for him to stand in, but not much else. They USUALLY will not mess where they lay.

That's my best suggestion. I've potty trained ALOT of dogs.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 12:05:54 pm »

Kennel him in a crate if you're gonna leave him inside while you're gone. Do not feed him in the morning, feed him right when you get home. Make sure the crate is small enough for him to stand in, but not much else. They USUALLY will not mess where they lay.

That's my best suggestion. I've potty trained ALOT of dogs.

Krystale, the problem im having is he is potty trained, but the last month or so hes forgotten all of it.  I have his old crate, im just gonna have to start puttin him in it, but id rrather come up with an idea of why hes doin it.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 12:13:23 pm »

Kennel him in a crate if you're gonna leave him inside while you're gone. Do not feed him in the morning, feed him right when you get home. Make sure the crate is small enough for him to stand in, but not much else. They USUALLY will not mess where they lay.

That's my best suggestion. I've potty trained ALOT of dogs.

Krystale, the problem im having is he is potty trained, but the last month or so hes forgotten all of it.  I have his old crate, im just gonna have to start puttin him in it, but id rrather come up with an idea of why hes doin it.

Gotchya.

Here's some thing I'd run through:

Have you changed his feed recently?
Have you started giving him treats of a different kind lately?
Have you introduced any new animal into the household lately?
Has your schedule changed at all lately?
How old is he??
Is it 'normal' stool or 'loose' ?
Is he also urinating or is it just defication he's doing in the house?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2013, 03:56:13 pm »

Havent changed his feed, no new animals in the house, no schedule change, normal stool, no worms, hes 3 years and some change old, sometimes it is urination as well.

What i cant figure is nothing's changed, his stool looks fine no worms or nothin, and up until a month or so ago he was house broke, and kennel trained.  I started leavin him outta the kennel in like december and we have had no problems (unless i work a 16-18 hour day or so, but i cant hold that against him), but he knows he messed up so he knows better.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2013, 04:58:29 pm »

Instead of beatin or whoopin (not that im against it by no means) but to try somethin different, take him to the pile and shock him. Also is he gettin sick? could be.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2013, 08:47:58 pm »

Don't know if this will work but when you take him out make sure he goes outside and when he does pet him up a little. Let him know he did a good job. If your walking him and he seems to be taking forever or that he doesn't need to walk him close to his previous area and let him smell it usually will make them go a lot quicker. I've had similar problems in the past and that seemed to help me the whoopins didn't seem to do much but take out a little of my frustration with them didn't fix anything. I think the new politically correct way to word it is "positive reinforcement" I'm all for a good introduction to a belt etc.... but it didn't do any good

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