Contract

[bnews05]

Anyone ever ask a seller thats allowing a trial to sign a contract or document. something that pretty much says guarantee money back if not satisfied? Just a thought.

[AnotherRunner]

I'm sure people have. But I don't think that's gonna help much. That's basically the same as giving your word and some people do lie. All they gotta do is sign and not follow thru then what?

[Fixitlouie]

in terms of legal, its a small clames unless its over 10,000. then it could still take two yrs once submit forms...its a persons word.....

from me.....who else. tapatalk

[dub]

I ain't buying dogs. If I need anything I will take a puppy and raise it myself. I reckon as long as it has the blood they say there ain't much to lie about. It is what it is and I like it that way. I really don't understand buying a finished dog. Just get a pup and make it what you want.

[KevinN]

I ain't buying dogs. If I need anything I will take a puppy and raise it myself. I reckon as long as it has the blood they say there ain't much to lie about. It is what it is and I like it that way. I really don't understand buying a finished dog. Just get a pup and make it what you want.

I agree but it's not always that easy.

[cantexduck]

I ain't buying dogs. If I need anything I will take a puppy and raise it myself. I reckon as long as it has the blood they say there ain't much to lie about. It is what it is and I like it that way. I really don't understand buying a finished dog. Just get a pup and make it what you want.

   Have all your pups turned out ?

[dub]

I ain't buying dogs. If I need anything I will take a puppy and raise it myself. I reckon as long as it has the blood they say there ain't much to lie about. It is what it is and I like it that way. I really don't understand buying a finished dog. Just get a pup and make it what you want.

   Have all your pups turned out ?

Nope but they have a better rate than grown dogs I paid for. I paid for dogs that should have been flat culled. But the puppies that did not trurn out were better than the grown dogs I paid for. I have only got one dog I did not get as a small pup that I like. Thanks to puppies I have some decent blood and in a few years I will add some new blood. Best of all I do not have to go buy dogs because most guys don't want the gyps. I have a couple pups that I will be trying in a few months. I think one will make it and the other I will see. But the cost of the pups $0.00 that is right not one dollar just the food to raise them. Even if they both turn out to be culls I can't come on here and bad mouth anyone. If they they both turn out good then I got mom and pop in my own yard so I can do it again. I paid for daddy as a pup and momma was given to me as a pup. I really do not even want a grown dog. I can get some real good blood as a pup I can't afford as a grown dog. You can have the contract. If you ain't no good for a hand shake then I don't want to deal with you. I have given away some good pups too but only to people that have treated me right.

[redriverslim]

The only thing a contract might do is put some measure of fear into the seller that you would be a person who would pursue legal action and he better not try to screw you.  You could easily receive a judgement in court in your favor, but getting your money back is a different matter.  If you feel a contract would help you, be sure and word the contract to say  . . . "Any litigation or judicial enforcement of this contract will be held in "YOUR TOWN, USA".  By our signatures, we agree to these conditions and acknowledge having received a copy of this contract."  And you both need to sign it.  Now lets say that the seller has put the screws to you.  You have to file small claims and set a court date.  There is almost a 100% chance that the seller will not show up for court (unless you both live in the same town), but if the seller lives hours away, he will probably not show up.  This is why you word the contract as stated above, so you are not the one who has to travel to court.  If the defendant does not show up, you will automatically receive whats called a DEFAULT JUDGEMENT which entitles you to recover the amount of the claim, plus court costs, filing fees.  What most people don't understand is that the judge isn't going to go get the guy who sold you the dog, nor will there be any warrant of any kind issued, etc.  No court is going to force him to pay you just because you won the case.  It is YOUR JOB to now go about recovering your money.  You would then have to take your judgement and file for garnishment or writ of execution.  You can garnish someone wages in Arkansas, but not Texas.  I don't know about LA, OK, etc.  If you can't get a garnishment, you would have to file for a writ of execution, which is a court order for the sheriff dept. to go seize the defendant's property where it can be sold to pay for your claim.  However, it is your job to determine what property the defendant has that is free and clear of liens, etc., and the property you want to have seized has to be specifically named in the writ of execution, which means you would have to determine exactly what the defendant had, serial #'s, vin #'s, etc. in order to do a lien research.  You also have to pay for filing the writ, which may cost up to $175.

The bottom line is that contracts can be enforced, but recovering your money is another story.  The time and effort it would take to recover your money wouldn't be worth it, unless we're talking about thousands, not hundreds.  So for all those our there who was wandering if a written contract would protect you from getting screwed on a dog . . . The answer is YES and NO.  Just how much $$$ are we talking about and how much is it worth your time.         

[justincorbell]

I think its ridiculous to even ask a seller for a contract or guarantee on puppies...... A grown dog is different but absolutely not with puppies and my reasoning is this........ As the seller i personally know how good the parents are or i wouldn't have bred them in the first place (this is me speakin for my dogs, not in general) now if i decide to sell a couple puppies im not guaranteein a dang thing except that they will eat, chit, yap and tear up anything you leave out lol..... Ya know y...... Because some people buy pups and dont work them at all, they sit in a pen r kennel until they are a year old then the buyer totes em to the woods often with a buncha strange people dogs and noises then scratches their head when the dog wont do anything and starts the whole "he sold me a cull bs"........ Not happenin!

I don't believe that you can train a dog to hunt persay but you can condition him to most scenarios as he grows up to set him up for success. Scent training, mock hunts and obedience go a long way and put a young dog ahead of the curve in my opinion...... Bottom line is that not all dogs will hunt and at six weeks old its a crap shoot!

[dub]

That is why I like puppies. If the pup don't turn out then I can't be mad at nobody.

I had a boy wanting to sell me a dog with a trial. I told him that I just wanted to know where he lived so I could bring it back if it don't turn out. I told him that was just how I did it that I don't give cash to anyone I don't know where lives. He said that don't mean  I would get money from "other dishonest people." I told him that I would just go chain the dog in the front yard and giving me my money back would be the least costly choice the person could make. He just laughed but called back and told me that he had just sold the dog. Now maybe someone showed up with the cash but I think he thought better of selling me his trash. I believe in being honest and upfront. So if I ever bought a grown dog again I would just be honest and upfront that I want to know where they live so if they rip me off they will not gain anything from it. If they are honest then they don't need to worry because either the dog turns out or they give me the money back. If they are not honest then they would be better to not do business with me. I don't need a contract.

[chads7376]

The only thing a contract might do is put some measure of fear into the seller that you would be a person who would pursue legal action and he better not try to screw you.  You could easily receive a judgement in court in your favor, but getting your money back is a different matter.  If you feel a contract would help you, be sure and word the contract to say  . . . "Any litigation or judicial enforcement of this contract will be held in "YOUR TOWN, USA".  By our signatures, we agree to these conditions and acknowledge having received a copy of this contract."  And you both need to sign it.  Now lets say that the seller has put the screws to you.  You have to file small claims and set a court date.  There is almost a 100% chance that the seller will not show up for court (unless you both live in the same town), but if the seller lives hours away, he will probably not show up.  This is why you word the contract as stated above, so you are not the one who has to travel to court.  If the defendant does not show up, you will automatically receive whats called a DEFAULT JUDGEMENT which entitles you to recover the amount of the claim, plus court costs, filing fees.  What most people don't understand is that the judge isn't going to go get the guy who sold you the dog, nor will there be any warrant of any kind issued, etc.  No court is going to force him to pay you just because you won the case.  It is YOUR JOB to now go about recovering your money.  You would then have to take your judgement and file for garnishment or writ of execution.  You can garnish someone wages in Arkansas, but not Texas.  I don't know about LA, OK, etc.  If you can't get a garnishment, you would have to file for a writ of execution, which is a court order for the sheriff dept. to go seize the defendant's property where it can be sold to pay for your claim.  However, it is your job to determine what property the defendant has that is free and clear of liens, etc., and the property you want to have seized has to be specifically named in the writ of execution, which means you would have to determine exactly what the defendant had, serial #'s, vin #'s, etc. in order to do a lien research.  You also have to pay for filing the writ, which may cost up to $175.

The bottom line is that contracts can be enforced, but recovering your money is another story.  The time and effort it would take to recover your money wouldn't be worth it, unless we're talking about thousands, not hundreds.  So for all those our there who was wandering if a written contract would protect you from getting screwed on a dog . . . The answer is YES and NO.  Just how much $$$ are we talking about and how much is it worth your time.         

Good read for the folks buying "finished dogs"