RIP SAM/Pit Bull?

[J Carroll]

Sam was a ybmc and was like a friend not just a hunting dog. I'm not a bragger but he was one of the better hood dogs I had ever hunted with and had a handle so good you just didn't see very often. Only a 4 year old dog. I had went hunting Thursday night and had caught two boars with Sam and two other dogs. I was putting up my dogs at about 2am and noticed two little baby raccoons sitting on the top of the very end kennel. I didn't think anything about it and just let them be and went to the house. I had a male bulldog that was pinned next to Sam that was kind of worked up wanting to get to these coons when I had left the kennels but didn't think anything about it. I came out the next day to feed and this bulldog had manged to push his way through the wire at the top of his pin and into SAMs pin and had killed Sam. My guess is he was trying to make his way to the baby coons. Because there had never been any kind of dog aggression out of either one of these dogs. What worries me is that I would have never dreamed this bulldog would have ever done anything like this. This may sound weird but how do I trust another bulldog to not do something like this. I do know I will not pin another bulldog next to my curs. What are the chances of a female bulldog doing this? As I have only male bmc's. I'm thinking maybe of only keeping female catch dogs from now on. Something like this may never happen again, so I do realize I maybe blowing this out of proportion. Building better pins is also in the plans for the near future but I have had several bulldogs in this same pin and never had a problem. Just can't get this out of my head. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Best containment for a bulldog is a secure proper chain.

Sounds like you said....he got worked up over them coons and redirected his aggression on your other dog. Regardless of breed, that can happen. I have seen instances of that happening. Unfortunately in this case, because he's a bulldog, the damage was much more severe. I am very sorry for your loss.

As for your question about whether a female bulldog would do something like that? Sex does not matter in that type of situation. Male or female, doesn't matter.

Again, very sorry for your loss.

[bob]

X2 , no matter how much handle you have on a bulldog it is still a bulldog and has a trip factor male or female , when the trip factor happens anything can happen if your there or not , they require a tight handle and a eye for things before they happen , I'm so sorry about your loss , don't beat yourself up about it , some things are learnt the hard way , I've been in your spot before even after I was told , it went in one ear and out the other , I paid the same price , I'm so sorry and god bless

[Hogsnatchers]

Sorry for your loss and as stated above ive been in your shoes. Bulldogs are what they are and you have to be very very aware of what they are capable of. Again sorry for your loss.

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[justincorbell]

Best containment for a bulldog is a secure proper chain.

Sounds like you said....he got worked up over them coons and redirected his aggression on your other dog. Regardless of breed, that can happen. I have seen instances of that happening. Unfortunately in this case, because he's a bulldog, the damage was much more severe. I am very sorry for your loss.

As for your question about whether a female bulldog would do something like that? Sex does not matter in that type of situation. Male or female, doesn't matter.

Again, very sorry for your loss.

Agree with the hi-lighted 100%.

A buddy of mine has a GREAT female CD, this gyp listens to him as good as a well trained bird dog but and she still ended up killing one of his best currs...... little different situation, the male curr had gotten loose off of his chain and was tryin to get into her pen because she was in heat and she wasn't having it. At the end of the day a bulldog is a bulldog, handle doesn't matter once the switch is flipped. Hate to hear about your dogs man.

[txsteve85]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

[Judge peel]

It's bad when stuff like this happens cuz they both can be like family if your like me but I have put a lot of dogs down due to Biting hands or dogs. I had one that took my boy ear dang near off I can tell you where he went. But as a long time pit owner of game and non game pits they are the same thing when action is called on they need to be treated as loaded guns cuz that's what they are most are sissy baby to Handle but when you get one that is hot you need to be carefull

[Scott]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.

[J Carroll]

Believe me, he didn't live to kill another dog. I feel that it might have turned into a bad problem in the future, had I not taken care of him. I just was wondering if I had female pits with my male curs if I would still have the same chance of problems happening. Example: I have double snapped opposite genders and led them away from a bay. (One being a cd) and not had problems. I tried that with two males and had to change things in a hurry. It could have just been that certain cituation. I'm not saying I disagree with all of your opinions, I just thought I would give an example as to why I thought what I was thinking. Thanks for the inputs

[Judge peel]

Just another word on pits if they are in a caged in are or tied up to another dog and are not calm it can trigger a attack as a rule never squar them off with another animal when they are excited or by by animal. They can get out of controll very easy sometimes it's hard to see becuz the pigs are taking the hit so just be carefull I was attacked by bull dog when I was young 3 surgerys and over 200 stitches was not my dog guy who didn't go by the rules of bull dog ownership

[Hogsnatchers]

I agree that usually females and males get along better in MOST situations. I have recently been having a few situations with my ab with other male dogs he is perfectly fine with females,but I'm sure under the right situation that male or female wouldn't matter. 

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[txsteve85]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.
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If I shouldn't own one then nobody should! Since all my dogs are in excellent escape proof kennels so my dogs can't hurt another dog or people. These type situations can be easy avoided.
And it's too late I have a game bred pit with more in the oven.

[djhogdogger]

Im so sorry for your loss. RIP Sam.

[DWEST]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.

So, if a man were to say the same for any dog...he shouldn't have dogs?
C'mon dude

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[wine6978]

Had it happen to me also. Best cd killed my best strike dog. Woulda never thought it as well. I shot the cd and vowed to never get another pit. Well they catch the best for me. So I have another. I also now have a strike dog yard and a catch dog yard. They don't intermingle. And the catch dog is on a chain in a fenced in area. It works for me.

[Scott]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.

If I shouldn't own one then nobody should! Since all my dogs are in excellent escape proof kennels so my dogs can't hurt another dog or people. These type situations can be easy avoided.
And it's too late I have a game bred pit with more in the oven.

Yes, these situations can be easily avoided with proper containment of the dog. But your comments indicated you would cull the dog for doing something that it has been bred to do for many decades/centuries. To me that makes as much sense as putting a shock collar on a hound because you don't want it to open on track. It's not the fault of the animal...it's the fault of the owner for being uneducated at best.  Why anyone would own a bulldog and then be quick to cull it for animal aggression is difficult for me to understand.

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.

So, if a man were to say the same for any dog...he shouldn't have dogs?
C'mon dude

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No, Dude, we're talking about bulldogs.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

And THIS kind of thing is what I was JUST talking about in another bulldog thread.

For all the folks saying they shot a bulldog because it killed another dog.....more power to you all in all, y'all do what y'all feel fit on your own yard....BUT....how can you fault a dog that did something selective genetic breeding from the past told it to do? If these dogs are contained properly, things like that shouldn't occur! That'd be like me shooting my Staghound because I didn't contain her properly and she got out and went into my rabbit pen and killed all my rabbits!

Owning a bulldog = A whole 'nother level of responsibility, and a big part of that is proper containment!

Bulldogs are not out of control beasts, but they DO need to be properly contained, especially when not working.

Owning a bulldog is taking a risk as far as dog aggression. Bottom line, if you don't want to take that risk, do not, and I repeat, do not own one!

[Canyonranch]

If a catchdog did that on my yard, I'd set up a meeting with the dog gods for him.
I've heard this type situation many times.

Then it would be best that you never owned a bulldog.

so just because he would shoot a pitbull that killed another dog means he shouldn't have bulldogs.. Wrong how about shoot him and get rid of him instead if selling that dog to someone else and getting there dog killed because you didn't tell them he had dig aggression.. So it's best to just put that dog down and get one that doesn't fight or have any trouble out of it... I had that bulldog kill one of my male dogs I told myself I will give him another chance and about a week later he just jump on my lab and I said it ain't worth having to mess with a dog like this..

[Scott]

It is my opinion that the vast majority should not own a bulldog.

[Ron]

Some female bull dogs are more aggressive than males. I have two of the best tempered male bull dogs that my little girls play with. But I will never trust them totally, they are still bull dogs that can snap at any time. Be cautious and be smart about every situation. Just my 3 1/2 cents.