Goning to be a good dog ...bulchit

[hoghunter71409]

I've been a member of this site for a while, and I thank the board for allowing me.  Forgive me for venting but.......

On another note...(and I don't sell dogs on here, or at least not very many).  It seems like every post I read about a pup or pups, or even a young dog says something like..going  be a good dog.  I've got news for sellers and buyers, you don't know what a dog is going to make until you've put a lot of time and sweat equity into a dog.  I don't care what the breeding is, what state it came from, or what type of cross it is.  None of that matters.  I read post about the best dogs...the best dogs I've seen are the dogs that have been hunted and handled year after year by the same person.  I'm here to tell you, the good dogs are not sold cheap. 

I get real tired of all these advertisements selling pups and guys that don't know better selling to another ignorant person that don't know any more.

It boils down to a lot of dudes on here selling chit to make a buck. 

[Mike]

I agree...

[KevinN]

Don't have to look at the dog trade if it upsets you that much.

Damn sure don't have to buy any thing....

Just sayin 

[chads7376]

I've been a member of this site for a while, and I thank the board for allowing me.  Forgive me for venting but.......

On another note...(and I don't sell dogs on here, or at least not very many).  It seems like every post I read about a pup or pups, or even a young dog says something like..going  be a good dog.  I've got news for sellers and buyers, you don't know what a dog is going to make until you've put a lot of time and sweat equity into a dog.  I don't care what the breeding is, what state it came from, or what type of cross it is.  None of that matters.  I read post about the best dogs...the best dogs I've seen are the dogs that have been hunted and handled year after year by the same person.  I'm here to tell you, the good dogs are not sold cheap. 

I get real tired of all these advertisements selling pups and guys that don't know better selling to another ignorant person that don't know any more.

It boils down to a lot of dudes on here selling chit to make a buck. 

Like.. See it and hear it all the time.. "gonna make a dog". If the dog will bay a hog in a pen then has to be good dog...lol

[Reuben]

I agree as well...but on a few things you said I somewhat agree...
Day in and day out good dogs will be high dollar...but some folks will sell one of those dogs cheap or even give it away...

The right pups don't need lots of time in the woods to make a hog dog...just show em you want hog and just breaking em off of trash is all that is needed...but the problem lies in finding the right pups...

[KevinN]

Like it Reuben

[justincorbell]

Well who is gonna advertise their chiteaters as chiteaters? lol


I agree with the most of what you are saying BUT there are a couple things I differ on. 1...... I have to disagree about the lineage not having anything to do with a pup making a dog..... If you want a bird dog are you going to buy a pup from someone who has pets or from someone who uses the parents/grandparents as bird dogs?.....same way with a hog dog in my opinion.... Now we all know that there are culls in every litter BUT buying pups from producing lines does improve the chances of getting a pup that will work out in the end.

[Lacy man]

I just like to catch swine

[halfbreed]

  well it's just American capitalism at it's finest . you show me any add anywhere, where a person or company or conglomerate doesn't have the best product out there !  all the auto manf. are selling the number 1 rated vehical . every insurance company out there will save you hundreds over the others . I have the best and I sell for less  lol   just the way it works folks .
 
  you don't know for sure that them pups are gonna make A1# dogs and you don't know for sure that they wont . anybody that has ever hunted or been around curs and hounds knows this already  , anybody that has ever bought a used car knows these things as well .

  I can count on my two hands the number of pups I have bought in my lifetime that didn't make MY STANDARD  but would have suited others i'm sure .  a lot of bringing up a dog is genetics and breeding and a whole bunch of it is what is DONE WITH  the pups when brought home and being raised . human error has ruined many a fine bred dog .   but what ya gonna do ?

[Reuben]

Halfbreed...like you said as many others have said on here...pups that are bred right with lots of potential can be ruined with bad handling...

Just like the dog whisperer says...he trains the owners and rehabilitates dogs...


The Nany does the same with people, rehabilitates kids and trains/educates the adults...


I am a better parent, grandfather, and dogman, because of those 2 shows... 

[justincorbell]

  well it's just American capitalism at it's finest . you show me any add anywhere, where a person or company or conglomerate doesn't have the best product out there !  all the auto manf. are selling the number 1 rated vehical . every insurance company out there will save you hundreds over the others . I have the best and I sell for less  lol   just the way it works folks .
 
  you don't know for sure that them pups are gonna make A1# dogs and you don't know for sure that they wont . anybody that has ever hunted or been around curs and hounds knows this already  , anybody that has ever bought a used car knows these things as well .

  I can count on my two hands the number of pups I have bought in my lifetime that didn't make MY STANDARD  but would have suited others i'm sure .  a lot of bringing up a dog is genetics and breeding and a whole bunch of it is what is DONE WITH  the pups when brought home and being raised . human error has ruined many a fine bred dog .   but what ya gonna do ?

agree with that 100%

[TexasHogDogs]

Am sure your remark was aimed at me becaue this went up not long after I posted that young dog for sale and said with being fed hog he was gonna make a good dog.

Maybe I should not have worded it like that maybe I should have put he is likely to make a good dog .  I can tell you this .  I have sold some dogs on here and they can all be backed up by who bought them.  I sold the Briar dog to Cory as a young dog he made a great dog said the same thing about Briar when he come to get him just ask him.  Sold the Penny bitch to Kelton told him the same thing as she was already a good dog in my eyes.  Sold the Ranger to Kelton also told him the same thing it was gonna take some work but he would big a good dog some day and from what I hear he is doing pretty well.  Some Mojo and Steve to a Game Warrden out of LA same thing with them they both turn and were damn good dogs.  Camo and Sis sold told the man the same thing a young dogs that were gonna make good dogs and they damn sure did .  solda lil Red dog to a man that needed a started dog told him the dog was gonna make a good dog and he sold the dog for over 3000.00 smacks you know how much I sold him for 200 bucks just to help the man out !  Also sold Cory the little Horn dog and told him the same thing about him and he is as pleased as he can be with him right now a young dog ,  sold Mike the little Rambo dog a young dog told him the same thing the dog is doing great and he calls every week.  There is more but you get the point.  When I say they are going to make a good dog am not off by much because I worked the dogs and know this line of dogs .  I hunt my dogs I breed my dogs I keep what I want and I try like hell to help young folks out with good well bred working dogs from proven stock and that why you are not going to find many if any are bitching about it.  Pups are a different story nobody knows cause they have not been worked .  If there were some that did not work out that I sold as young dogs you can bet your sweet ass they was told hey I don't know much about this dog and its your chance .

So for your remark if it was aimed at me you can stick it were the sun don't shine !

[Mike]

Jimmy, I'm pretty sure it was a general remark towards the majority of ads on the dog trade... some of them crack me up.

[reatj81]

I got a deal (22) shells!

[TexasHogDogs]

I can sure agree with that Mike if that is the case because there is a ton of chit sales on there .  I  had more than a few calls people telling me this went up after I posted that young dog I never even seen it till a few mins ago.  I hope it was not aimed at me cause I say what I mean about a young dog. Am sure not going to say that and then sell a piece of crap to somebody, my name means more to me than to do that kind of crap and I know how it is to be screwed out of your hard earn money for crap dogs.

Anyway if it was not aimed at me then I apologize to the man.  

[AnotherRunner]

Let a man said what he wants about his dog, if he thinks it will make a dog then put it. What you want them to post "started bmc doing pretty good should make a sorry cull one day $100" lol. Yeah the peddlers are out there and lots of them, just don't buy their dogs without research or seeing them do something. You go out on a limb buying any dog. If I sell a dog I would like to think he's gonna make a good dog. Not all people are peddlers. I'm sure we've all got burned some point and time I know I have and learned from it

[TexasHogDogs]

This is just something that never really bothered me .  I don't give a dang what a man has to say about his dogs are how many he sells.  If I was in the market for a dog I would know who is who and who is not and if I didn't I would be researching and talking to every one about who is who and what they got .  Plus if I was buying a suppose to be finished dog I would have to see it hunt and on my terms not the sellers only other way is if I knew the man that was selling the dog.  A finished dog is one that is going to be turn out by himself ,  roll out , hunt , find and bay his on hog without any help at all and no other dogs around him and of course there is other things to be looked at ,   unless you see it with your own eyes are know the man don't believe it .

Same way as who has the best dogs he said she said BS. I myself don't give a damn if a man says he has the best dogs that fine by me it don't bother me in the least nor do I take offense to it at all get you some get  after it hell .  All this kind of silly chit just never has bothered me in the least .   

[Muddogkennels]

Well when i sell a pup it's because i have them baying an trailing.. I do my part so when i say it will make a good dog it means i have spent time with the pup an scene good action an learning ability to drive an please so just hunt the pup! An staying out of the woods doesn't make a good hog dog. If some of the people would start complaining less and hunting more they just might know the quality of a good hog dog from super hog dog! Every body want's a super hog dog but truthfully, Hog dog picking is like a box of chocolate never know until u try them! lol

[KevinN]

This is just something that never really bothered me .  I don't give a dang what a man has to say about his dogs are how many he sells.  If I was in the market for a dog I would know who is who and who is not and if I didn't I would be researching and talking to every one about who is who and what they got .  Plus if I was buying a suppose to be finished dog I would have to see it hunt and on my terms not the sellers only other way is if I knew the man that was selling the dog.  A finished dog is one that is going to be turn out by himself ,  roll out , hunt , find and bay his on hog without any help at all and no other dogs around him and of course there is other things to be looked at ,   unless you see it with your own eyes are know the man don't believe it .

Same way as who has the best dogs he said she said BS. I myself don't give a damn if a man says he has the best dogs that fine by me it don't bother me in the least nor do I take offense to it at all get you some get  after it hell .  All this kind of silly chit just never has bothered me in the least .   

HaHa! I like! I've said the same thing in not so many words....over....and over....

But....people are just to dang lazy....they still buy from people they don't know or at least do their research on and then they complain when the pup/dog isn't what they want.

There are a very select few I would buy from without seeing the dog work first, just buy off their word......those few I've already hunted with or at least done research on and feel they have a good line and can be trusted.

Sure...there are some B.S. adds on the dogtrade but honestly.... I get more tired of hearing people bitch and whine about that or bitch and whine about getting done wrong when its their own dang fault!

[Reuben]

There are two kinds of hog dogs...good to great are one...and culls are the other...and I wouldn't knowingly sell a cull...it is hard for me to understand why folks would do this to others but it happens quite a bit...that is why I will only breed my own so I pick what I want...