Bottom...?

[DWEST]

Bottom, Stick, Finishing a track...whatever you want to call it.

After the last few hunts I've been ready to cull!!!!  But, after I calm down I remember that more often than not thy catch hogs for me and id hate to start over.
I've had the discussion before with my hunting buddy, that sometimes a dog that will quit a runner in this Florida thick scrub and heat is a blessing in disguise.  But, sometimes it flat out makes me mad.
Where do you draw the line?  And, when do you go back to the drawing board?  ( I know these questions can only be answered by each hunter individually)

I've thought seriously bout trying to find a good line of plot or other hound that could add the bottom to my pack.  A silent, track driving machine, with speed, stamina, and bottom for days.  With the ability to wind or trail and know how to make one sit down...a guy can dream 

[KevinN]

Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard.
Hell....you got that you don't need bottom 

[DWEST]

Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard.
Hell....you got that you don't need bottom 

Yes, but they have to catch up with one to sit it down.  Its just one piece to the puzzle

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[Bowhunter1994]

I like dogs that are semi rough... Catch when it's small and bay when it's big.. But have to be able to stop a runner

[SwampHunter]

What do y'all define as stoping a runner ? I have never understood this ...... I have had dogs that were almost all catch that still got on running hogs an I have had loose dogs get on running hogs ,
Seems to me after the hog knows a dog is on him he doesn't stop till he decides to stop an 99 percent of hogs are way faster in the brush an swamps than dogs

[pinecreekkennel]

I've never understood stopping a runner either because the hogs where I hunt when you realize they are a runner there wont be a dog get close enough to sit em down until it stops again and that takes lots of bottom.

[Peachcreek]

Shuttem down!!
You guys r gonna have to show me that trick.I only keep dogs around that will run them long enough to make the hog stop once its lungs are burning. It may take 4-5 hours or more but when the hog finally decides to stop the dog had better still be there.

I have hunted with some straight catch type rough yellers that never got any closer to the hog than my dogs.

But it never hurts to dream

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[TeJaShOgSlAyER]

I agree with all of yal i got a place that's high fence 600 acres and I'd love for someone to come down and try to stop one of these hogs! I have tried everything, straight catchy dogs, 5 loose dogs, 1 or 2 loose dogs I mean I have tried it all and I can promise my dogs got lots of bottom they won't quit you finally just gotta run the dogs down on a wheeler and catch them! I mean these are the most athletic hogs i have ever been on there is about 15 in the whole 600 ares they range from 75 pounds to 175 pounds! It would be a chore but it sure would be cool to watch if someone thinks they got super star dogs i got the unltmate test for them lol!

[Reuben]

breeding better hog dogs will make you do this...        

[DWEST]

Shuttem down!!
You guys r gonna have to show me that trick.I only keep dogs around that will run them long enough to make the hog stop once its lungs are burning. It may take 4-5 hours or more but when the hog finally decides to stop the dog had better still be there.

I have hunted with some straight catch type rough yellers that never got any closer to the hog than my dogs.

But it never hurts to dream

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Exactly!  Grit isn't my problem.   I need something that will hang with one as long as it takes

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[DWEST]

breeding better hog dogs will make you do this...        

Yes!  I guess these last few weeks have shown the holes in my pack, especially with one gyp staying home expected to drop pups soon

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[Florida Curdog]

I don't want mine to run one all night. 30 / 45 minutes is fine with me. Then off to the next one

[hillbilly]

If the hog wants to run its gonna run I don't care what kinda dogs you got. Its so thick the hog will be gone and 2 hundred yards ahead of them before the get it lined out.
I am like you sometimes I cuss my dogs when they quit and sometimes I say boy I wish they would come back out that place.

[Reuben]

 

If the hog wants to run its gonna run I don't care what kinda dogs you got. Its so thick the hog will be gone and 2 hundred yards ahead of them before the get it lined out.
I am like you sometimes I cuss my dogs when they quit and sometimes I say boy I wish they would come back out that place.

That's is how it is with those dogs that won't give it up...then we worry about where the hog is going to bay up and if it is a neighborhood... or 2 or 3 fences over and will the dogs get shot or stolen etc...etc...that's just the way it is with long range and lots of bottom dogs that won't give it up...

[Jared H.]

Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard.
Hell....you got that you don't need bottom 

Just wondering but how are you workin on that in your yard?  I've never hunted behind a dog that makes a running hog sit down.  Just dogs that stay with one until it decides to stop.

[T-Bob Parker]

Even dogs with tons of bottom get outrun plenty.
The best way to go if your wanting to "shut down them runners" is to get nothing but dogs with zero bottom whatsoever, no range and catch as soon as they see a hog. That way, when they smell a hog, begin to investigate it and the hog takes off and smokes em, you'll just assume they were hunting. You'll still catch a few hogs now and then and if you find a property that is smack covered in hogs you can catch em pretty often and make believe that hogs don't run when your crew is on the job!

[DWEST]

Even dogs with tons of bottom get outrun plenty.
The best way to go if your wanting to "shut down them runners" is to get nothing but dogs with zero bottom whatsoever, no range and catch as soon as they see a hog. That way, when they smell a hog, begin to investigate it and the hog takes off and smokes em, you'll just assume they were hunting. You'll still catch a few hogs now and then and if you find a property that is smack covered in hogs you can catch em pretty often and make believe that hogs don't run when your crew is on the job!

You may be on to somethin???

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[KevinN]

Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard.
Hell....you got that you don't need bottom 

Just wondering but how are you workin on that in your yard?  I've never hunted behind a dog that makes a running hog sit down.  Just dogs that stay with one until it decides to stop.

Trying to breed in A LOT of nut grabbing without being rough catchy...it ain't easy but its a goal.

A runner is a runner and no...you can't do much about that if he starts running before the first bark or before help comes in the form of another dog or two....you just gotta hope he stops and your dogs aren't to far behind.

When I talk about "sitting one down" I'm talking about a hog that is initially bayed by at least a couple dogs. I WANT dogs that will spin that hog...make him sit on his nuts to protect them. If he's busy protecting his nuts he HOPEFULLY won't have a chance to break and run......a chance to BE a runner. That's what I'm striving for anyway.

[Bo Pugh]

to me bottom is the key in hunting, around here its no stopping a hog from running but which one is going to run out of gas first, i got one dog that wont quit for several hours ill just let him run a while and if they cross a road somewhere ill try to put in a few more dogs with him and later pick them up and redo it again and lately its been working pretty good for me.

[Peachcreek]

Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard.
Hell....you got that you don't need bottom 

Just wondering but how are you workin on that in your yard?  I've never hunted behind a dog that makes a running hog sit down.  Just dogs that stay with one until it decides to stop.

Trying to breed in A LOT of nut grabbing without being rough catchy...it ain't easy but its a goal.

A runner is a runner and no...you can't do much about that if he starts running before the first bark or before help comes in the form of another dog or two....you just gotta hope he stops and your dogs aren't to far behind.

When I talk about "sitting one down" I'm talking about a hog that is initially bayed by at least a couple dogs. I WANT dogs that will spin that hog...make him sit on his nuts to protect them. If he's busy protecting his nuts he HOPEFULLY won't have a chance to break and run......a chance to BE a runner. That's what I'm striving for anyway.

Ohh I gotcha.. You r trying to breed some bay busters:) the way I see it if a hog is bayed putting pressure on it is a sure fire way to get it to run. Just my opinion for what it is worth.