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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 05:39:15 pm » |
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Well...I like the ability to "sit one down".... Working on that in my yard. Hell....you got that you don't need bottom  Just wondering but how are you workin on that in your yard? I've never hunted behind a dog that makes a running hog sit down. Just dogs that stay with one until it decides to stop. Trying to breed in A LOT of nut grabbing without being rough catchy...it ain't easy but its a goal. A runner is a runner and no...you can't do much about that if he starts running before the first bark or before help comes in the form of another dog or two....you just gotta hope he stops and your dogs aren't to far behind. When I talk about "sitting one down" I'm talking about a hog that is initially bayed by at least a couple dogs. I WANT dogs that will spin that hog...make him sit on his nuts to protect them. If he's busy protecting his nuts he HOPEFULLY won't have a chance to break and run......a chance to BE a runner. That's what I'm striving for anyway. Ohh I gotcha.. You r trying to breed some bay busters:) the way I see it if a hog is bayed putting pressure on it is a sure fire way to get it to run. Just my opinion for what it is worth. That was my thoughts too. |
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2013, 05:45:25 pm » |
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That kinda sounded rude... I guess it is what I wanted to say. Lol
To me if a dog tugs sack to get em to stop running great. If it bites a bayed hawg it had better commit and stay caught.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2013, 06:50:58 pm » |
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That kinda sounded rude... I guess it is what I wanted to say. Lol
To me if a dog tugs sack to get em to stop running great. If it bites a bayed hawg it had better commit and stay caught.
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Rude or not, sounds about right to me...  No point in pressuring a bayed hog... |
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2013, 07:20:52 pm » |
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Ok...let me get more detailed (although I know we've covered this before)
I want the dogs to grab ass when they see it. I want the hog sitting on his ass and spinning or backed up into the brush...in which case the dogs would be on the head baying. If the boar charges one dog the other is laying teeth...when the boar turns on HIM the OTHER is laying teeth....and repeat...lol.
I consider this bay dog perfection. Impossible...no...tall order to fill...sure. But if your not moving forward...you'll end up behind.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2013, 07:35:16 pm » |
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Personally I want bottom.
If I have a nut grabbing dog while a bay is settled, the dog better have a mouthful of nuts when I get there and the boar hog better be sitting on the dogs head, otherwise it's gonna pressure the hog alil to much.
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2013, 07:54:00 pm » |
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That kinda sounded rude... I guess it is what I wanted to say. Lol
To me if a dog tugs sack to get em to stop running great. If it bites a bayed hawg it had better commit and stay caught.
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Rude or not, sounds about right to me... No point in pressuring a bayed hog... Yep |
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2013, 08:28:44 pm » |
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That kinda sounded rude... I guess it is what I wanted to say. Lol
To me if a dog tugs sack to get em to stop running great. If it bites a bayed hawg it had better commit and stay caught.
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Rude or not, sounds about right to me... No point in pressuring a bayed hog... Yep Yup yup |
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2013, 09:07:15 pm » |
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I don't min having a dog with a ton of bottom but only run him on our big places and high fenced property's but on most places we hunt if they don't get him stopped by the time they hit 1-1.50 I want them coming back so we can get on another that works just fine down here and it keeps the dogs hunting for me vs me hunting for the dogs even though they r short to medium range we catch a ton of hogs and ya we get burned but still get quite a bit of big toothey hogs so we r happy with them some hogs just won't stop nut grabbing are not but they will pick up on the ones behind him r the next crippled 3 legged hog |
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2013, 09:13:20 pm » |
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Alright then |
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2013, 10:26:55 am » |
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Again...grit isn't a problen with my dogs. And I believe any hog dog knows how to make a hog stop if and when they catch up to it. Some hogs are gonna run and run, and most dogs will never keep up with a smart hog on its turf. But, if you have a dog (s) that pushes the the track long and fast enough, eventually that hog will either slip up or get fed up and turn to fight.
Kinda like runnin a deer, different strokes for different folks. A pack a beagles will run a buck round and round a block of woods or pond for hours. All the while the buck just lopes around out front, stops and watches and finds a time and place to slip out the back door. Now, a pack of fast walkers push that same deer fast enough where eventually he's gotta leave his bedroom and hopefully make a mistake on where he crosses.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 02:21:05 pm » |
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Sounds like you know what you want so go after it.
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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2013, 06:17:58 pm » |
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Sounds like you know what you want so go after it.
I plan on trying;D I guess my next step is finding a line of hounds that has what I'm after. (And, yes I know there are some curs that can "do it all") but for me I think the holes I'm seeing in my game is to add a hound type that can really push a track FAST with wind and bottom for days, all while being as quiet as possible on a track. Any push in the right direction is greatly appreciated Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 |
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2013, 10:43:19 pm » |
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Bottom, Stick, Finishing a track...whatever you want to call it. After the last few hunts I've been ready to cull!!!! But, after I calm down I remember that more often than not thy catch hogs for me and id hate to start over. I've had the discussion before with my hunting buddy, that sometimes a dog that will quit a runner in this Florida thick scrub and heat is a blessing in disguise. But, sometimes it flat out makes me mad. Where do you draw the line? And, when do you go back to the drawing board? ( I know these questions can only be answered by each hunter individually) I've thought seriously bout trying to find a good line of plot or other hound that could add the bottom to my pack. A silent, track driving machine, with speed, stamina, and bottom for days. With the ability to wind or trail and know how to make one sit down...a guy can dream [/quote ]. I totally understand what you are going threw .after 15 yrs of hunting w yella dogs and a few others here and there I have went to a gritty lots of bottom cold nose line if plotts I got tired of my dogs quitting a running hog in my head there was no excuse for this .I grew up deer hunting and rabbit hunting w dogs my whole life and none of them dogs ever quit a track .so this is my reason for going to my buddies line of plotts , and I can tell ya its been about 2 yrs and its the best decision I ever made . Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2 |
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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2013, 10:02:58 pm » |
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I agree with all of yal i got a place that's high fence 600 acres and I'd love for someone to come down and try to stop one of these hogs! I have tried everything, straight catchy dogs, 5 loose dogs, 1 or 2 loose dogs I mean I have tried it all and I can promise my dogs got lots of bottom they won't quit you finally just gotta run the dogs down on a wheeler and catch them! I mean these are the most athletic hogs i have ever been on there is about 15 in the whole 600 ares they range from 75 pounds to 175 pounds! It would be a chore but it sure would be cool to watch if someone thinks they got super star dogs i got the unltmate test for them lol!
Where do u live? I have some that can shut down pressured hogs. |
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