Kinda funny really.

[justincorbell]

No, one dog will work fine, whether in rice, rosehedge, salt marsh, pine thicket, mountains, cactus, cedar, etc, etc, etc....

Don't need a little one for this and a big one for that... ha ha ha!

Size doesn't matter... a good dog will still get it done regardless.

Like I said, im not tryin to argue, i never said a thing about big or little......i was speaking in terms of the dogs individual use or purpose if you will.....not that it matters.

[T-Bob Parker]

Terrain wouldn't be so much of a big deal if folks gave some thought and planning to the way they hunt in various places.



Let me use this as an example. A man has a puppy and takes it to the woods a few times, chunks it out with a bunch of other pups and crummy dogs, the pup won't quit playing, wont go hunt and when it starts to leave it CSS running back soon.

Other man gets the pup, takes it to woods, finds fresh hog sign, puts the pup out in it and while the pup is full of energy, lets it go explore what those fun smells are.

The second guy will more than likely have seen that pup make a dog whereas the first fella was probably creating a help dog.

Take the same "type" of thought process and apply it to talented dogs and you have a successful hunter in diverse terrains.

Some people wouldn't be able to kill more than a hog or two in a year if they had to do it without a dog (like gun or bow hunting) these folks are the type to not give any thought to how and why they hunt the way they do.

Other folks are hunters. And they hunt with dogs too.





Make any sence? Y'all know what I mean?

[justincorbell]

Terrain wouldn't be so much of a big deal if folks gave some thought and planning to the way they hunt in various places.



Let me use this as an example. A man has a puppy and takes it to the woods a few times, chunks it out with a bunch of other pups and crummy dogs, the pup won't quit playing, wont go hunt and when it starts to leave it CSS running back soon.

Other man gets the pup, takes it to woods, finds fresh hog sign, puts the pup out in it and while the pup is full of energy, lets it go explore what those fun smells are.

The second guy will more than likely have seen that pup make a dog whereas the first fella was probably creating a help dog.

Take the same "type" of thought process and apply it to talented dogs and you have a successful hunter in diverse terrains.

Some people wouldn't be able to kill more than a hog or two in a year if they had to do it without a dog (like gun or bow hunting) these folks are the type to not give any thought to how and why they hunt the way they do.

Other folks are hunters. And they hunt with dogs too.





Make any sence? Y'all know what I mean?

I smell what you are steppin in.

[Dedication07]

Mike I agree to an extent! He tries and will go, but physically he does not have the ability to get to a hog and get it stopped! Then runners here on top of that it's hard to keep up with the hogs, we can get shoats but no hogs until there ran to land then we do all the good! Now I'm not arguing with the fact that a good dog will get it done but some terrains dictate dogs abilitys. Maybe not all breeds, but certains breeds yes, when I first commented on that there was not a certain breed directed, it was simply a good dog, I classify this lil jadg good, he just don't have the ability to get in 2 ft of water and really shut down them hogs, now the daNe on the other hand he looks like a champ in the rice! I do agree with u tho and I'm not speaking in behalf of all Jadgs I'm speaking in behalf of mine and I really think hes a GOOD hog dog!

[TexasHogDogs]

Now this is just me and how I look at it.  If a dog has the heart but not the tools to get the job done its not his fault.  If he wants to but cant do it because of some physical incapable abilities  but would die trying its not his fault.  He might be to small to swim 300 yds are he might be to big to get into a rosehedge and just cannot get it done.  Does that make him a bad dog when he has maybe found and caught you 100's of hogs ? 

Na I don't think so .

Can you ask a Champion Pointer to whip a Gr Ch Pit Bulls ass ?

Can you ask a Gr Ch Pit Bull  to do a Ch Pointers job and find and point out birds ?

Can you ask a great Catch dog to do a great find dogs Job?

Can you ask a great find dog to do a great Catch dogs job ?

This can go on and on and on .

Does that make them a bad worthless dog and not great at what the do for real ?
No.

Dogs are like tools ! "Don't mean that in a bad way just a figure of speech"  You breed them to do a specific job and do it well.  You hand pick the dogs to do what they do well.  Then you fine tune it .

I sure as hell aint going to call a dog that has found me many many hogs on top of hogs for years not a real hog dog if he just cant get the job done once are twice in a very bad situation  .  Am not going to call my 80 lb catch dog a piece of chit if he cannot fit his self into a briar thicket a rat has trouble getting into .  There is excuses for everything but then there is common sence and lets not forget about the almighty ego's.
 

[Muddogkennels]

a true hog dog don't need help.. That's right mike it doesn't matter what breed of size if it can show hogs for the work he dose in the field then he's a keeper if not keep cull an buying or breeding for good dogs!   yes it's about having fun an catching hogs it's not about dry runs all the time!  good dogs are out there do good shopping an breeding.. 

[Shotgun wg]

Here's my view on this. I agree not every dog is right for every situation. I feel that a top notch dog from one area if taken to a totally different area should still be able to get it done. I feel that there is usually some adjustment period to the new environment if it is totally different. Now if ur dropping dogs on sign that's still steaming that's another story even my old throw away dogs might do something with that. I'm talking going into an area that generally holds hogs and letting the dogs find them not me find them and them bark. I agree these dogs are like tools and the right tool will do the job it needs to do. But there aren't as many crescent wrenches out there as some may think. Heck my dogs are stubby screwdrivers. They have their place but most don't like them, they can be agrivateing to work with, but they will do the job if its what u gotta work with.

[UNDERDOG]

I have seen a dog from far west Texas (Jp's dog) who to the best of my knowledge only hunted out there in the rocky,dry mountains. He came here and Mike took him to one of the nastiest place around...palmeto thickets (acres and acres ) swamps youpan thickets etc...nasty,nast place to hunt. That west TX dog ran a hog for 5 straight hours in that crap he was not used to and we caught the hog too....he ran the hog till the hog was stiff,when we caught him with the bulldogs he was litterally stiff. I say terrain don't matter with a good dog.

[Dedication07]

Underdog,  that's what it takes to be a good dog in your eyes? Wow! What's a super dog any story's about one of them? If my dog runs a hog for then 2 hrs I'm getting worried there lost and start calling back. To be honest just not my style I'd prefer them come on back and get one down the road! Good story and sounds like thats a super dog!

[Mike]

Underdog,  that's what it takes to be a good dog in your eyes? Wow! What's a super dog any story's about one of them? If my dog runs a hog for then 2 hrs I'm getting worried there lost and start calling back. To be honest just not my style I'd prefer them come on back and get one down the road! Good story and sounds like thats a super dog!

That's called a hog dog my friend... 2 hours the dogs are just getting limbered up on a good race.

[HS]

Underdog,  that's what it takes to be a good dog in your eyes? Wow! What's a super dog any story's about one of them? If my dog runs a hog for then 2 hrs I'm getting worried there lost and start calling back. To be honest just not my style I'd prefer them come on back and get one down the road! Good story and sounds like thats a super dog!

It sounds like a hell of a dog to me...I understand its not ur type of dog but some people expect more out of their dogs than others

[Dedication07]

I no what it's called, I call mine hog dogs, it don't mean its a good dog sounds like a super to me me and my opinion! I'd lie to experience your pack mike all your dogs individually alone on the ground will stick for for 5 hours plus? If not the ones that don't aren't hog dogs? What u consider them? If they do that's amazingly spectacular! My dogs prolly would stick that long if I allowed it! Thats not my cup of tea, back to what texashogdog said it depends on the size of land u have privilege to hint and I'm not blessed with many big places I gotta keep my dogs limited to the distances they can stick! I culled a young dog cause of it's bottom on a runner! So does that mean I don't have hog dogs mike? Because they don't stick for 5 plus hours? What do I need to call my dogs? Cull trash dogs? What's there correct classification?

[Dedication07]

HS, I agree 100 amd 10 percent it's sound like a super dog! Were talking about a good dog! Just cause my jadg would not swim 300 yards plus into a rice field amd bay hogs, does not making it any less dog then the next maybe for those scared to swallow there pride or carry a heavy ego! Just my opinion!

[Mike]

I no what it's called, I call mine hog dogs, it don't mean its a good dog sounds like a super to me me and my opinion! I'd lie to experience your pack mike all your dogs individually alone on the ground will stick for for 5 hours plus? If not the ones that don't aren't hog dogs? What u consider them? If they do that's amazingly spectacular! My dogs prolly would stick that long if I allowed it! Thats not my cup of tea, back to what texashogdog said it depends on the size of land u have privilege to hint and I'm not blessed with many big places I gotta keep my dogs limited to the distances they can stick! I culled a young dog cause of it's bottom on a runner! So does that mean I don't have hog dogs mike? Because they don't stick for 5 plus hours? What do I need to call my dogs? Cull trash dogs? What's there correct classification?

If they're over two years old they will... the ones that don't get culled. There's nothing amazing or spectacular about it, that's what I expect out of a dog.

[Dedication07]

Mike, now I grasp what your saying, that's your individual expectaions! That's what meets your needs and makes a dog worthy do be called a hog dog! That does not mean mines not. Mines still a good dog, my dog wouldn't work for u as well as many other but it fits my style! When u stated earlier that's called a hog dog! I didn't know what to call mine? I've always called them hog dogs! I doubt that anyone on this forum has a dog that has never at one point or  another ended a race with out a hog, even the super dogs get smoked on accasions!

[TexasHogDogs]

Ran over 31 miles on two four wheelers one day Kyle and myself .  Back and fourth back across 4500 acres four are five times cut down ever dog I owned except one my old CJ Bitch.   They hit the hog at about 6.30 that morning and I didn't get home till 6 that evening .  When the hog crossed the 4500 acres the last time he hit a dry creek and ran across the highway onto some more proptery that was around 2 miles to the back of that proptery which I had permission to .  Old Cj would walk with the boar hog and we never could get close every time he would take off run for about 500 yds stop fight and walk with her .  Well he went back and fourth alond that creek for about three four more hours and finally came out of the creek and crossed another proptery line and went about 900 yds up in there and finally sit down could not go no more and when we finally got to him it was like 5 pm that evening he didn't have a nut left and was sitting on his ass when we got there.  We went in got the hog and did not have the energy to drag him out of there we were both just wore completely out from busting the brush all that day trying to get to the dogs  . Had to call my Buddy Cory and he brought one of those big red wagons and we went back in there loaded the hog on the big red wagon and push the SOB out of the place.  Could not get four wheelers in there because we were truespassing and didn't want the man to hear the four wheelers .  Big boar hog around 250 lbs .

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Kyle , Tom and Me let dogs out at 6 am one morning we ran hogs till around 12 am had a pick up load of them .  My old Blu gyp got off on a big bad boar hog.  Long long story short .  We started on hwy 485 that morning and that nite I finally found her in Wilson Tx and the only reason I found her was a farmer that was on his tractor earlier that morning came by I gave him my number told him to call me if he seen are heard my gyp.  Well at 6 that evening me and Kyle had to leave we were about to starve to death plus we were dried out with no water from looking for the bitch.  So we came back to town got something to eat and drink went back now it is about 7.30 we are go into a high game fence a buddy owns looking for my gyp but no dice.   As were were about to give up and were going down the drive way my phone rings its the farmer that was on the tractor that morning .  He says Jimmy your dog is over here outside of Wilson she is in a corn patch and bayhing a big ass hog .   He gave us directions I didn't even know were this  place was at but Kyle did.   We get over there and sure nuff ole Blu got a boar hog bayed about 250 yds in a cut corn patch we go out there and the big boar never moves he is so wore out .     I shoot the hog we load the dog and go home .  This bitch had been on that hog all day long no telling how many miles back and fourth as a matter of fact she was so drawn up I had to administer two IV's that nite just to get her half way back to normal.

Hog dogs you damn straight !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Does that happen every time why hell no !!!!!!!!!!  Does that make them any less dog why hell no !!!!   Is there more times than that that we have been on all day and half the nite hunts chasing hogs more than I can remember !


Point is not every dog is gonna work the same every time out .

[Handle_It]

Some days mine are all pot lickers, mutts etc. Some days there just Dogs and Some days they are hog dogs. They will do something different all the time, but none of mine are even 2 yet so hopefully with time they will do better. Everyone talks about well this breeding or get a better dog. Well I can tell you most them guys that have them badass dogs wont sell them let alone reply back to you when you ask to try and get a pup. Im sure there are some but not many! I work with what I got to work with and that's fine with me.

[TexasHogDogs]

Another Example !

Me , Kyle and Rick hit the 4500 ac place here last fall.  Turn dogs loose 6.30 that morning run hogs all day long get some loose some. Its a day you can run hogs all day because its cool not cold and hot just a good day. About 11 that morning dogs get on a big bad boar hog .  The run and run and run and run some more we cant get them stopped by 7 pm dogs are falling out coming back cant hardly walk no more.  Horn stays on the hog with my Whitey gyp the hog ends up cross Co Rd after Co Rd we are 10 miles outside of Cameron when we started hunting we end up that nite at 10 pm One mile from Cameron right out side of the Country Club about a mile mile and a half from there .  Horn has been on this hog for hours now they are in the biggest damn thickest stuff I ever seen in my life didn't even know there were thickets that thick around here .  He is 1000 yds up in there you cannot even walk threw it much less get a wheeler.  Well I start calling calling calling at 11 pm we are on the side of a road it is showing my Horn dog is 250 yds up in there and has not move in over a hour are so .  I didn't want to go in because I hate truepassing and lucky some folks came by that owned the proptery and let us in .  We all go in with flash lights and I go straight to were he is at no barking no noting silent am skeered he is dead and cut down .  I get in there and Kyle sees him .

HE IS LOCKED UP TIGHT EVERY MUSCLE .  HE IS AS RIDGIED AS A PEICE OF STEEL FROM BEING DYHEDRADED CANNOT MOVE.  I PICK HIM UP CARRY HIM TO THE TRUCK RUSH HIM HOME AND GIVE IV'S AND OTHER MEDS ALL NITE LONG FINALLY HE STARTS TO LOOSE UP .  HE WAD DAMN NEAR IN SHOCK HE WAS SO LOW ON ELECTORLITES .  

Now folks this dog was locked down tight I don't know if any of you have seen that before but it happens when they just cannot go another inch done give it all they could give .  Is that a hog dog ?  You damn right in my books.  Does he do that every time?    Why hell no !
  

[UNDERDOG]

Underdog,  that's what it takes to be a good dog in your eyes? Wow! What's a super dog any story's about one of them? If my dog runs a hog for then 2 hrs I'm getting worried there lost and start calling back. To be honest just not my style I'd prefer them come on back and get one down the road! Good story and sounds like thats a super dog!

The topic was about how dogs do in different terrain right? ...thats why I posted the story I did,,,the dog came here and hunted basically the oposite terrain than were he lived.  Many of these places we hunt if a dog were to quit after 2 hrs you'd never catch a hog, if they came back and "got another down the road" you'd still be in a race on a runner. You can feed quiters if you want,,,no big deal to me. Same with that no swimming jadg....if I were feeding it it would be culled for not going forward but if a quiter suits you no sweat off my back.

Do a search on here for "Lionandboarhunter" 

[Peachcreek]

Gee wizz i have heard lots of stories about this lion and boar hunter guy... mostly dirty lil stories

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