wine6978
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« on: August 29, 2013, 06:17:46 pm » |
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I don't want to steal another subject from someone so ima start my own. Do y'all really believe that no matter what if a hog wants to run it CAN'T be stopped. It will only stop when it wants to. Dogs can't make a hog stop, whether it be caught or force to bay???
I ask this because the guy I used to hunt with all the time has one hell of a red cur dog that would make a hog stop. I mean we have seen it many a time. Ol Bo would strike a hog. Bay him. If he broke that was his only chance to bay. Next time that hog was seen he had that red cur on his ear. Cut down. Tired as hell. It didn't matter that dog didn't do running hogs. Straight shut em the hell down. One chance to bay was all they got. Once they broke that first time he would just catch em straight up. They may make it 50 ft they may make it 300 yards but no 10 miles. Not cause they didn't wanna run. They did. Hell they tried. It's just hard to run with big red earrings.
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wine6978
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2013, 06:19:17 pm » |
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Now I do have to admit this dog has no issues with life. It's not a factor. He is that straight shut em down stop em dog. No matter what. Life didn't get in the way.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2013, 06:48:11 pm » |
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IMO if a hog wants to run its goin too. But I do think ANY hog can be caught in the right situation.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2013, 06:51:18 pm » |
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Yes... load ol Bo up and come show me. I want him to stop every hog he starts.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 07:34:03 pm » |
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IMO...it always boils to to "fight or flight". And when that hog chooses flight, the dog still has to catch up to the hog, weather it be because the hog makes a mistake, gets tired, or finally decides to fight. We are hunting these animals in their house, they know the escape routes.
If a hog decides it wants to run, will it? Yes
Does this mean it can't be stopped? No
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 08:02:54 pm » |
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used to be hogs that stopped to fight...but those are out of the gene pool now and the ones that have gotten away are breeding more of the same...and they have adapted well...just like breeding better dogs...the cream rises to the top...
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 10:45:30 pm » |
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over here in bama i have noticed on some of the open places i been getting to hunt lately baying a hog isnt a problem even if it breaks its not goin to far but i dont hunt them places alot, the places i usually hunt are so thick usually the only time they bay is when they first run up on a hog about 5 barks and then its a race, its not the dogs or the hogs fault its thick this time of summer and briars that pull meat out when they go by, so a dog has a tuff time running and having to trail and getting his eyelids stretched out through these thickets that the dogs just cant catch up to get a hog to stop and bay, where the hog just puts his head down and trots around 3-4-5-6 hours and you get 5 barks every now and then when they run up on it, all the dogs cant stick togethor that long and wont run up on him all at one time. but if a dog runs a hog for 5 hours im just as happy as i caught 10 it shows just as good of dog work to me
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 11:20:56 pm » |
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ive seen a 100lb cd get draged by a hog...........caught yes,legged yes, stoped NO., but slow enuff to walk up and leg......
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2013, 12:04:16 am » |
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Now I do have to admit this dog has no issues with life. It's not a factor. He is that straight shut em down stop em dog. No matter what. Life didn't get in the way.
What kinda country is this hog stopper hunt in?
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2013, 09:43:04 am » |
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I dont think ol bo would have a chance to put his mouth on a hog out here. These suckers run at first bark then its off to the races for a few hours.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2013, 02:50:56 pm » |
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Yes... load ol Bo up and come show me. I want him to stop every hog he starts.
Yup, if ol bo can do it I want 10 pups outta of tomorrow......
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2013, 03:27:06 pm » |
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If a hog wants to run.... He can flat outrun a dog! I've been standing in an open pin oak flat and seen hogs break out of a thicket and flat outrun a dog to the far side! Dog starts out right on their tail and after 100 yards be 20 or 30 yards ahead and leaving that dog! The hog stops when and if it wants to!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2013, 04:24:50 pm » |
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I dont think ol bo would have a chance to put his mouth on a hog out here. These suckers run at first bark then its off to the races for a few hours.
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I gotta pack'a pigs Bayed tight in'a Bryar patch!! -945 BOAR BUSTERS-
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wine6978
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2013, 04:36:24 pm » |
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So it looks like everyone thinks you can't stop a hog. It'll stop when it wants. So i take it y'all don't have too many multiple hog hunts if y'all are chasing one hog for miles upon miles. At least not in this Texas heat. If that's the case you can have all them running hogs with no bay to em. Keep that number 2 far away from here.
O that bo dog again ain't mine he is a buddies dog. And they hunt some nasty ass south tx brush country. And if the stuff y'all hunt is worse than that crap around freer and Alice then you can have it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2013, 04:39:53 pm » |
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No one said you can't stop a hog... I was see the dog that can stop everyone he starts.
We stop plenty of hogs... but we damn sure run plenty too.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2013, 05:46:47 pm » |
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here by saying this, Ol' Bo sounds like a good dog. I think the difference here is the definition of stopping or shutting down a runner. I think most of us are meaning that stopping or shutting down means making it stand there until we get there with the catch dog. Bo isn't doing that. He is down right catching it and staying caught until you get there.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2013, 06:09:33 pm » |
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Jared, I've many a times wondered the same thing reading post on here about hogs running for hours or miles. I've never understood it either to be honest. When it comes down to it I think all it is is that me and you are use to hunting this South Texas brush country. Hogs down here are different I guess, some run, and some stop to fight, just the ones that run don't run for hours. By any means am I saying that my dogs are top notch, cus they're not, but I catch plenty of hogs with them, and I am happy with them. They don't start many hogs that don't get caught sooner or later. Maybe it the country they are in or what they eat, lol. It's not like they aren't pressured cus every other truck around here has a box in the back and poachers are everywhere! The way I see it is our dogs from S.TX, might not make the cut up north but it works both ways. I'd like to go hunt somewhere else just to see how different things are.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2013, 07:41:37 pm » |
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U have to be able to catch it to stop it. If the dog can't get thru the under brush fast enough it's not gonna happen unless the hog decides to stop. I have a dog that I have seen run down a hog in an open field and catch it. I have seen this same dog chase a shoat 2 miles before it decided to stop. If my 2 best dogs can get close enough it will stop. I have had races where they could not get close enough.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2013, 07:50:43 pm » |
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Mike C we can sure put you in these piney woods on some runners if you'd like to see some new country and see what all the fuss is about.
What part of South Texas do you hunt? I've hunted quit a few places down there myself.
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Mike C.
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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2013, 08:34:36 pm » |
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Thanks Mike, ill have to take you up on that some time! When I read post of where dogs run a hog for 4-5 hours it makes me stop and want to think if my dogs would have that kind of bottom, more than likely they wouldn't. The places I hunt it wouldn't take long to be on the neighbors property if hogs ran that bad here. Sometimes reading those posts makes me want to start over and get a pack of those type dogs, but then I stop and realize I catch hogs with what I have.
Mike I hunt from Hebbronville, Benavides, Premont, Falfurrias, Encino, McCook, King Ranch all the way down to Raymondville, and all places in between
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