Australia...

[Reuben]

Australia's population is about 23,000,000 and that country is about the same size as the USA...yet, the population in the good ole USA is 313,000,000 which is 13.6 times higher than that of Australia's...Makes me want to move to Australia so I can breathe and catch lots of hogs...

now if you were born in Chicago or New York city and you take a drive and see a little green grass and you might just think we could double our population again without any problems...But I think 50 million would be about max if it were up to me...all tree huggers and anti hunters would be made into dog food right off the bat...    and everyone else would only be allowed .5 kids per person until 50 million is attained...YEA  all doggers would be allowed 2 kids per person...all hunters and fishermen would be allowed 1 kid per person... 


So what does this mean for the Australian hog doggers??? can you hunt anywhere anytime out in the wide open spaces???

[charles]

If ya figure a way to get our pop down that low, legaly, ill start the pot to boiling n get the grinder warmed up.

[halfbreed]

  lol  you have to break them from running roos  .    and Australia's  land mass that is productive and livable  is most likely about the size of texas  .  from what I've seen watching crocodile Dundee  lol   .

[dub]

It is over run by tree huggers. Plus the imagration policy is much harder than it is here. That is why the population is low. Nobody can just move there.

[Gun Bullety]

Sorry for dragging up a really old topic with my first post, it's just that it's the topic that made me want to join this forum as I feel it is unanswered.

I don't want you guys to come here and be disappointed. There is literally no land whatsoever to hunt, unless you happen to know a farmer. Every inch of australia is owned by someone, if not farmers then by the government who has a mountain of rules dictating what you can't do on their land, and btw their land is number 2 anyway, our state forests are not owned because the land is worthless, to humans, and it happens to follow worthless to animals as well. You will only find snakes and lizards and ants in our state forests,  maybe wallabies which you can't hunt anyway.

It's unusually barren crappy land, and I'm not even talking about the desert which takes up most of australia, the desert is actually better than our state forests. It has more going on, but it's still crap.

Now if you make a connection with a land owner, then yes you are laughing. Some of our cattle and sheep stations are the size of european countries. I have a great aunt who has to drive 2 hours to her own mailbox, and yes it is awesome when I take the dogs out there, but it's extraordinarily far from where I am so I've only been there like twice.

If you're just some fool driving around with dogs looking for somewhere to let them loose to chase pigs or whatever else, you will never find anywhere. It's almost baffling. I've been trapsing around the country looking for about 20 odd years and there is no where, and trust me when I say even australia is overpopulated. You can be in the middle of nowhere and find a creek which would be nice to let your dogs have a swim and you will definitely run into a bunch of other dirtbag people that had the same idea. So yeah, 23 million people, but all the land is taken by about 4000 people, and then you have nearly 23 million people all fighting over the few acres that are left.

I often marvel over the fact americans can just go to the woods and go camping or whatever on tv, it just seems like there is so much more spare land in the US than here in australia. To be honest even in england, too. It seems like they can just go wander off into a forest if they so desire, we can't.
There's honestly no where to go. Again, unless you know a landowner or are a landowner.

I've given up and intend to be a landowner, will be in 2015, there's no other way. Can only afford a couple of hundred acres but that will be heaven to me. Australia might seem lightly populated on paper but trust me when I say the population is still very very stifling for an outdoorsmen, it turns out 20 million is way way too many people for a landmass this size.

[WayOutWest]

Nice to hear another take on this. US is changing fast tho, I live in Wa State and the large timber co. are now charging for access to their land. Years ago they were given tax incentives to allow access but that seems to be forgotten. Wecome to this board, lots of good folks here!

[Shotgun wg]

Everything is always nicer from the outside looking in. The only reason the US has the amount of country it does that is wilderness is due to a president that liked to hunt. The timber industry has had an effort to replant forest  but they have changed ecosystems from hardwoods to pine. This country offers as much if not more opportunity for the outdoorsman than any country in the world. It has it's flaws but as Gun Bullety pointed out so do others.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[aussie black mouth curs]

Belated merry christmas to my mates across the ditch.

There seems to be this view that its all beer and skittles here. And it is true that is some remote areas there are a LOT of pigs / game animals and very few people. But its the same as anywhere if you have good connections and can form relationships with landholders; that turns into good hunting access and you get heaps, without that access you aren't going to kill many pigs.

I'd also add that some areas we go to are 1-2 days drive and with fuel at 1.50 per litre then its an expensive pastime ($500-600 for a 4-5 day hunt is not unsual). Also some of the western areas have been very hard hit with drought. One place I have access to hasn't had rain since 2012 and the pigs have died out.

cheers

T