My line breed pups

[W-tate]

i am just givein you a hard time you dont even know me  to be givein me a pup  but i love me a good  line breed yellar dog   they are some of the smartest dogs for cattel and hogs i think i have a couple from a guy  i kow that are line breed and  seems like the females mature slower but are better in the long run maybe not better but easier to get a handle on

[Wormy Dog Kennels]

Sure like a blonde!...W.D.............

[cward]

Yes sire I have one gyp you talk to her real quiet while she works a cow!   
WD I sure like that male dog of yours to!! 

[craig]

chance

  thats the way my wife is,  if i talk to her too rough while where working cattle ,, she will go to the house...

[cward]

Mine says that I holler at her while working cattle but who is she going to here me over cattle balwling and dogs baying if I don't holler..Then if something don't get done then she say's why didn't you tell me... Women turn your blinker on and give me some derection.. Song by Sam Moore

[W-tate]

Lol.  Oh man I prolly shouldn't say this but my grandapa always tells me they pull the peckers off the  dumb ones at birth

[craig]

Lol.  Oh man I prolly shouldn't say this but my grandapa always tells me they pull the peckers off the  dumb ones at birth

  you better hope Mrs. Ward is doing home work,   or you will get more than a ear full 

[W-tate]

Yeah I know but that sayin has always cracked me up mostly true with. Some exeptions

[craig]

way to cover your tracks ,  yeh with a few exeptions 

[Black Gold]

good looking pups!

[Tom45]

Great looking pups cward, like that black mask.

[skoalbandett]

Thanks, I appreciate it.  It Sounds like you are awful proud of your dogs and you should be based on what you are saying about them.
To anwer ya question, I live in Terrell and my brother in law ( Big O ) lives in Eustace ( near Athens )  Underdog and a couple more on here know some about us and our dogs.  Underdog told me he'd like to make the hunt down there with us if we get a time and date that works, hope that would be alright. I have been trying to get him up here for a  hunt for several years, guess he thinks we BBQ bulldog men..lol

 Tell ya a couple things about us and our dogs so Ya know we not just a couple guys lookin for dogs or out on a wild goose chase :
If you know any of these old timers they can tell you about our line of dogs and their history.   John Wayne Ross, president of the SBMCA ( he , his son and son in law own some of em and breed to one of our dogs  on occasions. They come down and hunt wtih us a time or two every year. John Wayne's son Jeff , stayed down here a month or two a few years back and hunted with us. ) Boys like that and some old cowboys who ranch, own and use dogs bred like these or out of these who really use and depend a dog . Men like Clue Anderson, Ben Jordan or John Gay. In fact I have seen Ben Jordan and "Henry" mentioned on here a time or two, you may have heard of him or his Henry dog I dont know. Henry was born on my father in laws poarch in 1979, he was out of a dog my father in law owned, Liz and by a male dog named Leroy that Ricky Driver owned. We used a litter mate brother to Henry ( Punch ) as the back bone of our dogs while Ben Jordan used Henry and his sister Ginny as the backbone to the dogs he still use's to  work cattle on 80,000 acres of wild country in Oklahoma nearly 30 years later. These dogs are just a old set of solid line bred East Texas BMC dogs we have had, used on hog and cattle and  culled tough for 35 years or so. Just like most folks I guess, We've gone through periods when we had some great dogs and at times just a few decent to good ones. The blood they carry are as solid as the day we found em.
We just never have been publicity seeking people nor do we raised dogs or pups to sell or sold dogs or pups or advertize for anything. We just use em, breed a few and give em to ranchers, friends and folks we know that reallly use a dog and need em when we have some to give. Dont get me wrong, I do not know a breeder who dont have culls come along, including us. In my opinion, only those that dont use em or dont know the difference or lie dont have culls and dogs that dont meet the cut.
Although its how and why we started and what was done for years, We dont work cattle wtih ours anymore but we Still hog hunt em 2 or 3 times a week and  good lord willing, will till we just can't anymore..
As for us, We both been around,raised and used horses, cattle and dogs our whole life. Big O was a succesful TB Race horse trainer who moved from track to track with meets all over the country for many years . He also trained cuttin horses professionaly and was a NCHA approved judge.
 
Would it be better on you to wait till after Deer season for a hog hunt ?

By the way there is a great annumal cow dog trial up in Oklahoma next month held Out on a fellers ranch.. there will be quite a few dogs bred like these in it. It's a real friendly deal and family oriented. You'll see and meet some fellows who  been at it for years, have to depend on dogs and know what they are doing if you'd like to go.

[craig]

skoalbandit

  do you know Clue Anderson?      he is a good freind of mine...

[lightningh]

Chance them pups have sure grown since i was down there! They are lookin good!  I sure wish i would have packed one in my suitcase before i left! LOL!

[skoalbandett]

Yes sir I do  know Clue... He, Lisa and Chelsea have stayed at my home.  He has come down hunted with us a couple times this year, Seen some of these dogs go, ended up breeding 2 of his gyps to one of our dogs, planning on breeding another one or two to a young dog we have. We have two pups that are about 7 months old out of one of  his gyps.. They are Better lookin pups than what most of ours are.. lol We gave  him a pup out of our dogs that is 6 months old or so,  I hope he turns out, time will tell.
A lot of Clue's dogs go back to Henry and Ginny. Clue and Ben are friends and Clue use to help him pen and work cattle quite a bit.

I really like Clue, he is a good man, a awful good dog man and outstanding cowboy. Do you live near him ?

[craig]

yeh im about 20 mi. north of Clue.   
since he hunts open plotts , we dont hunted together.
 he does have some nice BMC cow dogs..

im pretty handy but just because i know Clue dont think im trying to make you think im 1/2 the cowboy he is 

he is pretty much a legend in these parts, but i have known him all my life ,he is as good as they come.

if you talk to Clue ask him about his horse bucking off of a 30' bank into the navigation channel, i was with him that day and thats the one and only time we have hunted together thats back before he had any plotts ,id say about 15yr ago. i lowered Clue down on a rope and drug all his tack back to the top, then lowered the rope back down and dallied off needless to say that horse came up a 30' straight bank..

guys set around the camp fire telling Clue Anderson stories up here..

i dont know Ben , i have talked to him on the phone and he invited me down to stay and hunt , but i could never find the time..

[skoalbandett]

YeP, he likes them hounds to on hogs and coons.... He always told me those cur dogs were to important to him to waste em on a dang hog, he needed cow dogs.  He told me he dont want a cow dog breakin off on no dang hog... lol  Those old cowboys as you know are funny about their cow dogs....
I am very very selective who I will hunt with on a regular basis, more particular about what kind of dogs but ,Shoot I will hunt with him any day, dont bother or cause no problems with these older dogs for sure.. Not to mention, if he unloads a dog, you might ought to buckel up cause he'll prolly be a good un and will behave. Aint ya normal dog handler , his dogs act and do right. Just dont ask to look at his bone pile.. lol
He hunts some cur dogs and is fooling with some 1/2 AND 1/2 ON  hogs lately.  I think will hunt some more of em some day before long. I typically dont care for plotts as a rule, but, he's got some good uns, not the normal hound you see thats for sure.

I didnt want to brag to much on what a hand he was or how good a dog man he was, sounds like a sales pitch but in truth, I dont think I am a good enough salesman to tell folks about him and a few more I know.. lol

[cward]

Skoal we will have to set up a hunt we are getting pretty tight around here because of the deer hunters..So it would be better to wait till after deer season... I stiil run during deer season but just try to make quick hunts.. When yall can come down I would like to be able to show yall a good hunt... Me and my wife come up to caton several times a year!! We also came up there and looked at Red Braman bulls there in Terrell...

[skoalbandett]

No problem I understand.. We have the same problem and end up being able to hunt a few places we kn ow are safe and a few more we can only hunt at night during deer season. We'll shoot for after the bambi hunters get out of the woods.. lol , I will look forward to it.. By the way if  you guys come to canton and you want to make a hunt with us, you'd be welcome just give me a shout.
Canton is quite a deal hu ?? Lordy you should have seen it back in the day.. wouldnt be notin to see 2000 dogs there and would always be a big coon hunt that went on all night long for a couple  nights at least.. Use to have a good horse and mule sale to a couple times a year but Those days are long gone. Now it's a all breed puppy mill heaven to include at least 500 soon to be world champion Put bull pups to select from.. lol
Who's Red Braman cattle did  you come look at ?

[craig]

skoalbandett
 i was at canton about 10 yr ago and meet a black man there that runs open plott dogs, i asked him if he caught alot of hogs , he said never did go to them just liked to here them run..

 you probably know of him real nice fella,  i thought that was funny he said "i just likes to hear em run".