Keep it, kill it, or bring it back

[BIG BEN]

Heard this from a respected dog man one time and put it to use when I started breeding these cur dogs and placing puppies with people. Follow the guidelines and you'll get more pups from me. Sell the pup and you'll burn the bridge. What's yalls opinion of the guidelines?

[Mike]

You're right on the money... unfortunately, lots a folks don't seem to follow those guidelines.

[BA-IV]

You're right on the money!  I feel pretty strongly about this subject, and I know quite a few who don't like to hear what I have to say on it.

When you have as much work, time, and effort put into a line of dogs whether brand new or been around 50 years, the last thing you want is for someone to sell that pup you entrusted to them. It's almost as if when you price that pup, you're pricing your word, and that's something that takes a lifetime to build, and takes a second to destroy.

[KevinN]

Especially if it's a FREE pup!!

Man I feel bad enough if a pup/dog that was given to me dies/gets killed. Hard to understand how someone could sell said animal. I always thought it was just implied...you get it for free....there are rules if you get rid of it.

[BIG BEN]

My situation the pup wasn't totally free. I stated he didn't have to give me anything but he donated a hundred when he picked up the pup. $100 isn't crap for these dogs and I can get a whole lot more but I'm not in it for money.

[Peachcreek]

I just had a conversation about this last night with my wife. She was upset with me about culling a dog i had raised from a pup. My wife kept insisting I should have given the dog to a young hunter or to someone as a pet. I was trying to explain to her that the guy i got the pup from doesn't like just anyone having his dogs. The right thing to do in my eyes is to check with who ever gave you the dog first and foremost before doing anything with the dog. It burns me up having to get someones blessing to do something with a dog that I have fed for a few years. But i exspect the same respect from someone i might give a pup to. Just my thoughts on the subject.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

I am firm on this notion. If I place a dog with someone, (which doesn't happen very often), I always make it clear that if for any reason they cannot keep the dog, I want to be notified FIRST and at least offered the chance to take the dog back. If/when I receive a dog from someone else, I ALWAYS abide by this rule.

[WayOutWest]

I have ended friendships over this same issue. If I allow you to have a dog from me. Run it by me first if it doesn't work out. Most likely I will say do what you need to do but if you don't give the respect to the person you got the dog from don't expect another one. The best and most cherished dogs I have owned were free and I have always tried to let the breeder in on whatever I was doing with them in case they wanted something back.

[Bryant]

Every pup that has left my yard did so under the same conditions.  I also added this...that if for some reason the dog was to be sold, that I was given first chance to buy at sellers price.

There are times I could see, where perhaps a hunter gets out or some other circumstance arises which would requre ridding of his/her dogs.  After assumably putting many hours work into a dog I would never expect that the dog should be GIVEN back to me.  Therefore, it has always been my policy that if that situation arises, I would purchase.  I'm not talking about pups...I'm talking about an older dog that has grown and aged.

[BIG BEN]

 I feel the same way bryant. If they put the time in and finished the dog it's there's to do what they want.

[7Mhunter]

More people need to wake up an relize this. I gave a dog to a person  and told them i wanted the dog back i they get rid of the dog then they mess the dog up then call me asking how much they could get for the dog. Seriously people these days tho.

[Shotgun wg]

If I'm given a dog it is not completely mine. It to me still partially belongs to the giver unless I'm told otherwise.

If I pay for a dog then it belongs to me. At this point I can do as I please with it. With that said I will give the man that I bought said dog from first option.

I have never sold a dog and probly never will. To be honest if I don't won't a dog chances are I have a real good reason. Selling it to me is cheating another man. Giving him same dog is letting him see if it works for him. I would like the opertunity to get it back if the decide to get rid of it also. If it's no count tell me and then shoot it.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[Muddogkennels]

Some dogs i have bought has been deals where the seller wants double for the breeding rights an his pups an young started strike dogs range from 400 to 1000 with out breeding right!   but i can care less for the breeding rights! Good dogs come an go And if you train a few young good dogs off them it's worth the money!   CULL IT IF ITS NOT STRIKING BY 1 1/2YEAR!  To find good dogs u have to have dogs come an go!

[dub]

I have never sold a dog and don't plan to. But if I had to decide between selling a dog and feeing my kids then I would sell a dog. But I woul call the person I got the dog from and explain everything first. It don't matter if I paid for the dog or it was free. The way I look at it the dog is mine to do with what I want. But there you need to show the due respect to the person you got the dog from. When I get a dog I plan to be the person that burries that dog but that is because that is how I buy most things. But just like when those baseball sluggers knock a ball out of the park and expect the person to just give it back are crazy so is expecting to get a paid for dog back for free. The sluggers make big money and that prized ball could change my life. Well a dog ain't that big but I would allow the slugger to match the top bid on the ball. I would exoect someone to call me up and tell me what was up and if the dog was good then I should pay what the dog is "really" worth not some crazy dog trader price. if the dog was free and it don't work out and you don't want it then you should bring it back. I would give the donation back because they are also out feed and time but they knew the risk so nothing extra.

If you expect "Keep it, kill it, or bring it back" then be sure you say so before anyone takes a dog so everyone knows where you stand and the other person can ask any quetion to clear things up before they take a dog.

[BA-IV]

If you expect what the title says then raise your dogs accordingly and don't piss and moan when you are selling 5-6 litters a year.  I can understand and believe it's the way it should be done when someone is putting a few pups to hunting homes, but when you are breeding for money, then don't complain, it makes you look like an idiot.

[Black Smith]

Well I guess everyone has a opinion but if I give you a dog it is yours you can keep it sell it or cull it!!it is yours to do with it as you want. But if you let someone know you want it back if they don't want it they should honor that!!

[txsteve85]

Gave my buddy Swamphunter a pup this week out of a well bred litter.
The pup was a gift, I dont expect anything back. He can make it a pet, hunting dog, cull it to his standard not mine if need be. His dog not mine anymore.
I have two dogs in my yard now that have buy back rights to the guys I got them from. They are not puppies. If I buy a puppy im gonna keep it or cull it.

[Jimt3]

I kind of think if you buy a pup, for whatever price, its not for you to decide what happens to it. That excludes specific but back agreements. That being said, I was sold a dog and given a pup by the same guy, a hunting buddy, he cut me a deal on that dog. were I to decide to sell the dog I bought, I'd tell him and sell it back for what it was worth, probably what I paid. But I gave that pup back, I think it's a courtesy to offer paid dogs back with no previous agreement, its an unspoken rule to give back a free dog.

[Jimt3]

I meant sell... It's too late for the Internet...

[BIG BEN]

Im am in no way a dog trader or puppy mill. Just a guy trying to keep a line of dogs alive from some of the best men I know and have ever met. I tried to place pups in the hands of honest people that would do right by them because 1 person can't do it on their own. It was made clear my conditions and all money's would have been returned. I didn't come close to recovering the cost of the 2 litters that I raised. To make a profit off someone's reputation(not mine), time, and hard work is just wrong. If I was to sell a pup I wouldn't have any say in what the purchaser wanted to do with it and if they put the time into the pup and made a dog then sold it for big money I would not mind that at all either.