Attack dogs/gard dog opinion .

[Middleton]

I have a friend that's always saying that a dog couldn't take him down an he could kill a dog attacking him without a weapon, an I all ways tell him he would s##t his pants with pain if he got attacked an after seeing some of those bulldogs especially on a pig, I think u would be lucky not to get your arm broken if it had a hold of u. He's a big guy 6"5 240 odd lb but I still don't think he would have a chance. What u think?

[Judge peel]

I have heard people say the same thing. I was attacked by a boxer when I was young like to have killed me in just a few seconds luckily my cousin was there to help i had two surgerys and over 300 stitches but I was a kid might not been as bad if I was grown. A shep or Doberman would shred his but up easly he might have a better chance hurting a pit if it locked on that is if he can take the pain but I really dought it

[dodgegirl]

I'd have to say if one of my full grown dogos attacked someone it would be nasty. Just when playing they can easily over power me and not even know it. I can't imagine if they were mad and wanted to hurt someone. I had a friend who was messing with me & play hit my side, one of my dogs did not like that and was airborne I thank god everyday that when I yelled down he hit the floor. Sounds to me that your friend is playing the "macho man role"

[buddylee]

Do the world a favor and have your buddy neutered.

[Hunt the Grunt]

We breed, train, and sell Belgian Malinois and German Shepherds for personal protection, detection, & some go in to the military. Your friend wouldn't want to try taking on a dog whose job is to take him down. We have a male Malinois that is 3 yrs old who was just retired from overseas that is an awesome dog at bite work and bomb detection. He is super smart, but was sent back here to the US because after he catches and takes down the insurgents he likes to rip out private parts once they quit moving (I don't see a problem with it if he is being put on afghans.) Even when the insurgents have weapons, the majority of the time the dog wins.
 
On another note, I let one of our female Malinois see a hog about 180lbs when she was a little less than a year old and she would bay the hair of one. They cost too much for me to risk hunting but I plan on breeding that male Malinois that came from overseas to one of my birddog crosses to experiment a little and see if I cant create a Superdog! 

[KevinN]

I AM NOT saying I could do it. Just a story and opinion.

I was assigned to the 1st Ranger Bn. In the Army. I was Lucky enough to attend a few schools, one being S.E.R.E. (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape)

This is a school that teaches you how to survive behind enemy lines...cut off from friendly troops, it teaches you evasion techniques (with a small focus on dealing with dogs), it teaches resistance to interrogation techniques and it teaches you escape strategy/planning.

If you are properly trained...if you know how tracking/guard/attack dogs work and you are prepared for them, if you have that knowledge and you use it....along with the adrenaline pump to ease the pain.....I think you stand a better chance at defeating them.

We were taught to find something resembling a knife....wrap the arm as best you can and when the time comes....offer the arm and have the "knife" ready in the other hand.

May work, may not but I think you would stand a better chance than the average thug/Taliban, lol.

[KevinN]

On a side note....one of the dogs used in our training was a Malinoise gyp. Small dog...45-50 lbs but good lord....fast as lightening. A volunteer was in a full suit....40 yards head start...he got 3 steps before she hit him....bit him 3 times before he hit the ground. She ended up on his neck.

I definitely wouldn't try to run, lol.

[coach]

Yeah forget that stuff!!! I'll just leave that to Johnny Knoxville and those crazy idiots!!!  LMAO

[Hutch33]

Depending on the breed and person, I'm sure there's the chance of beating a dog off of you. But, I've been to the military's top dog competition where they have Belgian Malinois drag a plastic doll the size and weight of a grown man then take down a guy in a bite suit on the run, with ease.  Not saying it cant be done, but if it were so easy to throw a off a dog then we wouldn't use them for the jobs we do.

[KevinN]

In my little scenario were not talking about throwing a dog or beating it off. We're talking about GIVING it your arm and KILLING it with your free hand.

Still a tall order 

[Hunt the Grunt]

I have a video on my computer at home of me in a bite suit working with a few dogs I will try to post later tonight. If I knew a dog was coming and I had a weapon I believe I may stand a chance, but with no weapon I would be through! lol Overseas in a real world situation the dogs are usually used at night and are on the taliban before they realize it.

I have a few friends that work dogs in the military and I had the opportunity to see a few Infrared helicopter videos that were looking down on our guys working with the dogs in the field. The taliban were postitioned out in fields and our men would send the dogs out ahead of them and the dogs would hunt out a ways and nail the taliban when they got there. Our guys do not get in any hurry to get to the dogs as they have to make sure the area is safe to approach so a lot of the time the dog pretty much had the job finished before our guys got to them. Very cool to watch.

[KevinN]

Awesome

[Jimt3]

My dad trained and bred German Shepherd Dogs for a while when I was growing up. They did a sport called Shutzand (sp?) which is basically a series of tests the Germans developed to test their dogs. Bite work, tracking and obedience as well as confirmation tests in the show ring.  Someone with zero experience with those dogs has zero chance when one wants you down. I can't imagine how I'd actually react when it came down to it. Offering the arm and striking with a knife in the off hand is obviously ideal but that dog is hitting you at like 30+ MPH. You're gonna end up on your back with a machine literally bred to kill you (if that's what's asked of it) on top of you. And it will die trying. I'd like to say I'm surviving that encounter but I'd feel a whole hell of a lot better with my Glock 23.

[Hutch33]

Still a tall order  

Lol.  True, but with that free arm you didn't willing give and no weapon, sure you'd choose to be beating that dog off.  John Wayne can do it, maybe your friend can.  And he was only 6''4.    

Overseas in a real world situation the dogs are usually used at night and are on the taliban before they realize it.
Very cool to watch.

I totally support using dogs of war, that'd be awesome to see. Post that video, I have been told it's like a train hits you in a bite suit.

[SwampHunter]

I have zero experience with this kind of stuff but from the videos I have seen it seems the dogs grab a  arm an hold on , so with a knife one cut an the dog would be dead throat or jugular would put him out of business ,

With no weapon your options are choking it out , breaking its neck , or getting the dog off his feet
If you see the dog coming an meet him with same attitude as he was coming at you with I believe your chances are pretty good to kill the dog , all he was is a mouth no claws like a bear or big cat.
My dad always told me if you control the head the rest is gonna follow


Work the dogs head an neck get on top of the dog or get him off his feet an its done

[UNDERDOG]

It is real easy to assume you can take one out until he has you in the arm pit and you feel the pain and almost instant shock.

[Jimt3]

That's a solid plan. And I'd say this is one of the few online forums whose has a majority of subscribers capable of that kind of reaction. Though meeting that dog with the same kind of intensity it's bringing to you is easier said than done. It will be running towards you faster than you can ever imagine moving (no offense, but I doubt you're a world class sprinter) it won't be afraid or mad, you can't hurt it at all, not to mention if it grabs you and holds on until its told to release then it gets a tennis ball for a reward. It's motivation is something you can't fathom, you don't love anything the way that dog has been trained to love that ball. Those working GSD's are something else and I pity the man on the receiving end of that kind of intensity.

[UNDERDOG]

This was an 8 mo young dog...when they get you right were he has me ...it hurts bad lol...and not much you can do from there.

[Hutch33]

Awesome picture.

Here's a few picture I have...

It's motivation is something you can't fathom, you don't love anything the way that dog has been trained to love that ball.

[ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS]

Huey.....this is Bill tolsons sons arm after a friends Dogo attacked him in the kennel,he was alone and had to slam its head in the door repeatedly to break him off,imagine if he was down and that was his throat!!!! Show your ignorant buddy this!!!!!!!!!!!