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« on: November 18, 2013, 05:26:29 pm »

Before I get started I want to say that when it comes to working animals color or papers don't matter much to me as long as they work.  Hell, I raise striped eared cattle in a Angus part of the world. These pups were advertised at BMC's and they were black with a little white on chest and feet.  Before I bought these pups I did some research on the owner.  Found out he was a stand up guy with some good dogs.  I have seen the parents they are both yellow with black masks.  He said he gets some blacks every now and then and they don't go fast because everyone wants the yellow.  Again, color doesn't matter to me if they work they stay if not they go.  I am just curious if anyone else had any experience with this?  I am new to the curs.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 05:46:07 pm »

Post a pic of them so can check them out !!
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 05:50:52 pm »

This is one of mine he is straight cur had two in the litter


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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 05:55:04 pm »

Yea, as soon as I posted that I realized a picture would have helped.  As soon as I get one I will post it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 06:12:28 pm »

Yep, bmc's come in more colors than yella.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 07:44:16 pm »

Got a buddy that has a BMC cow dog that's jet black with a white chest
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 08:10:28 pm »

Is it certain bloodlines?
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 08:22:51 pm »

Im certainly not an expert with the BMC or any other breed of dogs, but something doesn't seem right with this.  Is it possible or likely that one of the dogs in the second or third generation was not a common BMC (yellow with a black mask)?
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 08:51:24 pm »

That is what I call a real blackmouth cur.lol
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 08:55:07 pm »

It seems like they all originated off some good stock dogs.  The YBMC is just a coined phrase to make some money, I could be wrong though.

Lots of the guys who breed the yellow dogs get reds, blacks, Black and Tans, and brindles.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 09:32:17 pm »

If you go far enough back in any family of BMC's you will find all colors of cur dogs, even blue and spotted ones. That goes for the so called pure bred registered ones.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 09:36:49 pm »

Yep...you get 2 Yella dogs w/black masks that have the right skeletons in the closet....ain't no tellin what you'll get.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 09:38:30 pm »

Curtis Ladner has some dogs that throw a black here and there. I saw a pic he posted a lil while back of a black pup.


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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 10:34:59 am »

It's not as rare as a person would think...  I have had this happen with my dogs but the other way around...  My dogs are pure Parkers which are primarily black or brindle. there has been 2 breedings and both  times I got 3 yella outta 9 pups.  This is pretty rare, so to insure they were indeed pure parkers I had DNA testing done the first time it happened. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2013, 11:03:28 am »

My gyp is a red Ladner and she threw those black pup the colors where bred out by some lines to get a uniform color that don't add up to a pile of beans to me in this game color don't make a dog or a person just my opion
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2013, 11:22:28 am »

Black and tan colored BMCs are seen frequently. I haven't seen many straight Black BMCs but probably just haven't seen the lines in which they occur. As bigo indicated above, go back a few generations and you will see many colors. As Ben Jordan said many years ago "The color is the easiest thing to fix."
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 11:39:07 am »

As soon as I can I will get some pics up.  I leave the house before sunup and get home at dark, but I will get some.  Like I mentioned color really doesn't matter to me.  I do have a question though about BMC maturing.  They are about about 6 mo old and still chasing butterflies.  They are picking up their commands well but when they get off the lead they are back to goofiness. I have been using herding dogs on my cattle for a while and they seem to mature very quickly. They are both males if that makes a difference.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2013, 06:40:46 pm »

I haven't been on here in a while , but there is a guy that bred for the black dog , he had a post on here a few months back , I believe called a new flock of crows , he would know  about this black gene , use the search engine
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2013, 09:46:30 pm »

Tshelly is the guy that has all the black BMC. , I searched the engine ,  he breeds for this spacific trait
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 08:41:39 am »

If you go far enough back in any family of BMC's you will find all colors of cur dogs, even blue and spotted ones. That goes for the so called pure bred registered ones.

But registered dogs come with a money back guarantee that  their noses won't turn pink and their tails won't fall off...........Hmmmmmm.....Maybe that was another kind of guarantee come to think of it.

But I am sure its a goodun.....  laugh
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