Black BMC?

[WestOK]

I found the posts last night.  They look pretty spot on to mine.  It made me feel better I was starting to doubt what I had going on. As soon as I can get some day time pics I will post some.

[WestOK]

I finally got some pics if my black curs. We were were having some family fun in the Oklahoma snow. They are brothers and about. 6mo old.

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[BA-IV]

Them are no stock bred cur dogs...at least not full blooded.

[KevinN]

Ears look suspect 

[Shotgun wg]

The dog looks part bulldog to me. Ears eyes and head structure. I could be wrong. The main thing is do they do what u want and are u happy with them? If yes it don't matter.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[Bryant]

I'd bet almost anything those dogs have some heeler in them.

[Shotgun wg]

I'd bet almost anything those dogs have some heeler in them.

U may be right. If I remember right that eye color is linked to only certain breeds.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[hogdog05]

What I consider "blue".

 

[WestOK]

The older they get the more bull dog they are starting to look. I have already decided if they aren't working out by 1yr they are going somewhere else.  I talked to the guy I got them from last week and he reassured me on them. I guess we will see.

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[t.wilbanks]

This is some of the black dogs from the line of dogs TSHELLY and that gang has/had...

I don't see much resemblance between your dog and theirs, besides being mostly black..

And I might add, those wouldn't be what you call a "black BMC" ...   

[WestOK]

Well I guess I will have to admit defeat and just call them a cur if that.   I should have known better hell he was a Texan  , but he reassured me that they will work cattle.  Now I am getting all sorts of ideas in my head about what they are.  I have seen some border collie/bulldog/bmc crosses that look  like this. The ears and snout on one looks pretty collie like.  The other has more bull dog features, and both way to dam big to be majority bc.  I don't know what to think anymore.  I guess we will see what technique they use to  work.  They better work out, because I have caught a ton a crap from my wife 

[Wmwendler]

Look like collie mix to me.......maybe "hangin tree cow dogs" which are a line of collie mix dogs.  But those erect ears puts Cur dogs out of the question in my opinion.

[KevinN]

The two red dogs on the right I bought from a guy in Pittsburgh. Were suppose to be Cat/Cur. Obviously not but I trained em up and started them. The female showed more cur characteristics but it was still clear that they had some heeler or something in them. They were 10 months in this picture and that was their first hog in the woods. Two older dogs had the boar bayed but when the little male got there he only barked about 30 seconds and then they caught.

They were serviceable but the male was catchy...not my style. Still...they hunted. They showed promise. In the end I moved them to a guy out east. From what I understand they were finding and catching hogs.

Just ain't no tellin what might make a dog if your willing to wait and see....and don't care if they're mutts. ; )




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[WestOK]

I just thought I would share an update on my black cur mutts. They are 9 mo old and this was their 2nd time on cattle. They were throttling sheep at 6 mo just wanting to catch.So we increased size by 1000#s. I can sic them on and call them off. Now that they are older they are starting to show more bulldog features.  One looks like a cur with a little bulldog the other a bulldog with a little cur. I am finally getting excited about them.


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[OWL Black Mouth Curs]

look like kelpie bulldog crosses to me. but that doesn't mean they are.

[Reuben]

It's not as rare as a person would think...  I have had this happen with my dogs but the other way around...  My dogs are pure Parkers which are primarily black or brindle. there has been 2 breedings and both  times I got 3 yella outta 9 pups.  This is pretty rare, so to insure they were indeed pure parkers I had DNA testing done the first time it happened. 

Two black dogs can produce A few yellows in a litter...if both carry the recessive for yellow....

And if the dogs bred bred are truly yellow they cannot produce black pups....

[skunkhounds]

looks like they are cow dogs  or atleast gonna be

[OWL Black Mouth Curs]

"Two black dogs can produce A few yellows in a litter...if both carry the recessive for yellow....

And if the dogs bred bred are truly yellow they cannot produce black pups...."

sorry it messed up the quote box, rueben.
two yellows can produce recessive black.

true yellows, i guess wouldn't be carrying recessive for black, but then again a recessive gene can ride many generations in a "true" family before getting a chance to rear it's head.

[TheRednose]

look like kelpie bulldog crosses to me. but that doesn't mean they are.

I would have to agree. def a kelpie or some type of cattle dog cross. They are looking good!

[Reuben]

true yellows, i guess wouldn't be carrying recessive for black, but then again a recessive gene can ride many generations in a "true" family before getting a chance to rear it's head.

OWL...the reason that I said that about the yellows not throwing black is because for them to be yellow a yellow dog has to of inherited yellow from both parents to be a yellow dog and that is why I believe that to be true...I read about color genes in dogs and I didn't get past the simplest rule on color which is black and yellow...  trying to decipher the rest made my head hurt...