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« on: November 19, 2013, 10:13:01 pm » |
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I'm looking to get back in now that my divorce n crap n finally settled I wanna use walkers bc that's what my grandpa used and I was taught how to dog with but the guys I hunt with think I need curs just haven't ever had good luck with curs but any insight is appreciated guys
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 10:38:59 pm » |
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If u was raised on hounds changing to curs will be hard. I was raised on walkers. I run hound cur cross. There is times I wish they were walkers but for the most part they do fine. A lot of the reason folks are getting away from hounds is purely the size of places hunted and the issues with crossing lines.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 11:04:09 pm » |
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hound cross because really good hounds with bottom can run 8 to 15 hours now that be comes a plan in the rear sometimes and the size of land has to be really big and then the 2 different tracking collars per hound so it just matters on the places u got to run.. shop around a do some hunts with people bud..
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Mike
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 06:50:06 am » |
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Muddog... good curs and cur/hound crosses can do the same thing.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 10:19:51 am » |
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Finding a straight walker hound to run hogs now days is rough. I was raised hunting behind some awesome treeing walker hounds all my life and they were hell on coons. The problem with them on hogs is exactly what's said above. You will get to know the neighbors of all the places you hunt very quickly. You will know all the county roads in a 20 mile radius from where you hunt. You will have dogs that will flat blow the doors off your box, burn a hole through your tailgate and take out like a rocket. You will also see many hogs while on your way to a race 5 miles away. And finally, you will go home many nights without seeing a race end with a hog on the end of it. I think a Walker hound is the most attractive specimen of hunting dogs out there ,but for CATCHING hogs there's much more practical choices.
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say what you want about my family or friends but you leave my dog the hell out of this-F.D.R.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 10:34:52 am » |
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I was raised with hounds all my life and my dads to this day still calls me nuts for running yellow dogs. But like he tells me its hard to find a hound with quality and traits that they used to have when he was growing up. I love running me some hounds no questions askeds, aint nothing like hearing some hounds in the thickets singing that one of a kind sound, but like I stated above its hard to find hounds like my dads and a lot of the old timers had back then. My dads hounds all came from deep Louisiana and now its like they all vanished. That's just my opinion tho
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 10:41:56 am » |
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Well on the other hand....(referring to tree walkers, not running walkers) I've seen some nice ones. Cold nosed, go yonder type hounds that would go and go until they foind a hog. You may have to go 5 miles to get them, but you wont be kicking them away from your feet either. There are a lot of pot licker type dogs that cant find a hog 50 yds away, but if you dont have a lot of hogs and you need a good cold nosed dog that can put one at the end of the track, a real good treeing walker may be a good choice. Im sure there are a lot of good ones out there, I think NChoghunter on here uses them for bear and hogs, he seems to do well. Lots of different opinions, I'd say go and get one and see what you think.
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 11:10:47 am » |
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Muddog... good curs and cur/hound crosses can do the same thing.
That's kinda what I said mike a hound cross but I have not seen a straight cur run on the same hog for more then 8+ hours but I like 4to6 hours any more I would be just hunting dogs I choose to dog to the size of areas I run.. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 11:41:34 am » |
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Finding a straight walker hound to run hogs now days is rough. I was raised hunting behind some awesome treeing walker hounds all my life and they were hell on coons. The problem with them on hogs is exactly what's said above. You will get to know the neighbors of all the places you hunt very quickly. You will know all the county roads in a 20 mile radius from where you hunt. You will have dogs that will flat blow the doors off your box, burn a hole through your tailgate and take out like a rocket. You will also see many hogs while on your way to a race 5 miles away. And finally, you will go home many nights without seeing a race end with a hog on the end of it. I think a Walker hound is the most attractive specimen of hunting dogs out there ,but for CATCHING hogs there's much more practical choices.
  good post...you will be hunting hounds and not hogs... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 02:35:27 pm » |
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There are good dogs in ever breed. I have a treeing walker thats hog nuts and i have caught lots of hogs behind her as a 2 year old. She ran 19.23 miles just from what we could pick up her up in one hunt. Love hounds but love a bmc and i grew up around both and a few of my coonhounds will trash on a hog but still get the job done!
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 02:52:32 pm » |
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all my hounds seemed to hunt just like cur dogs when I raised them from pups . they would hunt a big area and then check up . my coon hounds hunted this way as well as all my hounds I have here except the walker but I got her when she was a year old . just because they are hounds don't mean they will blow out and never check up , it's all in how you work them . when I was hide hunting in the early years we would not tolerate a dog that didn't check up , it would cost us money and time . now they will stay on a track but so should my curs ! I like hounds and the treeing walker is my preference but i'm not color blind .
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 07:37:59 pm » |
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Sounds like some of these guys have been hunting with the wrong hounds!!!! There's a weeding-out process with the hounds just the same as the curs. Around here if they don't finish the track enough they go AWAY!!!! There are plenty of curs with a lot worse problems than not finishing a track. The truth is no matter what direction he decides to go he'll likely find a fair amount of culls. The hog population should have an impact on his decision as well. I can promise one thing I will NOT see ANY hogs on my way to the 5 miles race around here. I gave a cur dog to a guy at Uncle Earls one year, the dog would find hogs left and right but wouldn't run one out of sight. Two years later they where wanting to write a book about the dog. He told me they could find another hog faster then they could run a running hog down. That dog is a cull some places and a hog dog some places. I prefer the dogs that are hog dogs everywhere.
Good luck with whatever you decide to hunt behind but you already said you haven't had luck with curs.
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