How do I teach a dog to roll out on another hog

[ChanceandAnita]

What are some of yall methods of getting your dogs to roll out on other hogs after you get to the bay. All of my dogs are fairly young but I can't seem to get them to get off the caught hog and find another one

[txsteve85]

I strongly believe its something thats in the blood if they have they have it, if not they dont.

[hoghunter71409]

I dont know how you teach it, but I know the day my gyp started to roll out on another hog.

My lil gyp was almost 2 years old and I would say that she was started at the time, but fit more into the "help dog" category.  I was hunting in South LA on the edge of some crawfish fields and there were a lot of hogs.  We caught three hogs within the first hour or two.  She just happened to be in on all three of the bays, but I dont think she found any of those first three hogs.  After the third hog (while we were carrying the hog out) my lil gyp was walking in front of us  and she must have hit some real hot track.  She shot out like a bullet and went 200 yds or so and bayed by herslef.  I looked at my buddy and he looked at me and thought hat dang; she has found her first hod completely solo and bayed it.  Now I have to add, I never let baydogs just hang around a caught hog and damage the hog.  I always try to get baydogs back.

I can say with almost 100% certainty, that she has rolled out on almost every hog after that.  Didnt matter if she was cut or not, she had to roll out and look. I think the way you start to get dogs to roll out is not letting them stay and a caught hog.  As soon as the hog is caught and secure, get your dog and try to get them back out in sign.  Let them know that a caught hog is not allowed to be messed with.  Obviously this is easier when you have a lot of hogs; there is a greater chance of getting on more sign right away.  It would also help if just after a hog was caught, your dog could hear another dog bay; this teaches that there is more than one hog in the woods. Not sure if this is the right answer or helps you out, but it is my experience.

On another note, I think cur dogs and catahou;la or working breeds of dogs are easier to train on this than hounds.  I say this becuase I have 5 hounds and they wont leave a caught hog for aything.  It aggrevates me, but that is they way mine are.

[ChanceandAnita]

I have a couple of bay dogs that I have to catch at every bay or they will keep biting and tare the hog up but I have a couple that when I leg the pig and tie it they kinda stand guard over them not really messing with it but don't want to leave

[Cajun]

Pretty much what hoghunter says. It is defentley easier when you have a lot of hogs. If you want them to roll out & they will not, sometimes you have to get rough with them. You have to make them understand once a hog is caught, they are not to be messed with & like Jon said, calling them away from the caught hog to get them to go hunting again.Also you cannot tie them up. They will never learn if they are tied back.

[BA-IV]

I believe it's genetic.  

I'm not saying you can't make any one of your dogs roll out, but it's an uphill battle, I know I been there. It always helps to have an older dog that will roll out, but just don't let the dogs stay chewing on a hog.  A leash works wonders when the dogs won't leave your feet, make it uncomfortable for them to be there if you are by yourself.  If you are hunting with someone else, catch the dogs and walk them away coaxing them to go hunt, if they go back to the hog whip them off a caught hog, they'll learn the difference and it won't hurt them.

[heavyhitter89]

I totally agree, I also think its genetic, ive had some dogs that would shoot out of there once caught but hell Ive had some that would follow it until I loaded it up. I think that its possible to train them to do that but I just have no input on how lol. I know that some guys dream of dogs that would roll out after caught but not all dogs will do it. Its really a coin toss on getting your dog to it.

[ChanceandAnita]

Thanks everyone for all the help my wife and myself started hunting hogs with our house dogs and added a few dogs here and there we don't really know all the tricks to training dogs our dogs kinda figured it out on their own and we r learning too thank y'all for the help

[boatrunner]

I will have to disagree, it is not genetic it is Discipline, you have to get the dog attention. I don't main beating the dog but get the dogs attention. I have said this before, I teach my dogs three commands (Get Back) (Load Up) ( And the Call to Come Here) I start this as a pup.
Training, I use to have small hog pin about 50y by 100y, I would get about 3 or 4 hogs around 125lbs and have the dogs bay, I would go in with a catch dog and catch one, the dogs or pups would see the other pigs and would rather bay them than get hit buy the a 1" PVC pipe ( PVC works good because it is flexible not like wood). When the dogs leave to go bay the other pigs then turn the pig loose and start all over again.
Hope this helps.

[KevinN]

Lol...some dogs do it with no discipline... So yes... It has got to be genetic.

It can also be taught. Not that I've tried to hard with my dogs....but I should.

[SnF bucking bulls]

I believe it's genetic.  

I'm not saying you can't make any one of your dogs roll out, but it's an uphill battle, I know I been there. It always helps to have an older dog that will roll out, but just don't let the dogs stay chewing on a hog.  A leash works wonders when the dogs won't leave your feet, make it uncomfortable for them to be there if you are by yourself.  If you are hunting with someone else, catch the dogs and walk them away coaxing them to go hunt, if they go back to the hog whip them off a caught hog, they'll learn the difference and it won't hurt them.

agreed

[BIG BEN]

I don't want mine to roll our on their own, I'd rather give the command to get ahead after the hog is caught but I got 2 here that roll on their own and it makes for some long days, also can be dangerous when it's 100 degrees out.

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[KevinN]

I don't want mine to roll our on their own, I'd rather give the command to get ahead after the hog is caught but I got 2 here that roll on their own and it makes for some long days, also can be dangerous when it's 100 degrees out.

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Yep Ben...when I hunt with Blake and his Tater dog....sometimes by the third or forth or seventh hog, lol....we look at each other and say "grab Tater before we leg the hog"...lol

[TeJaShOgSlAyER]

I got a gyp that will leave out as soon as the cd's are caught good if there is a good sign, but if they just get one hog lined out she will stay help catch until the pig is killed then she will go try n start another one!  But I just think it's something they gotta wanna do I don't think it's something you can train or make a dog do!

[LTcaughthog]

I got a gyp that will leave out as soon as the cd's are caught good if there is a good sign, but if they just get one hog lined out she will stay help catch until the pig is killed then she will go try n start another one!  But I just think it's something they gotta wanna do I don't think it's something you can train or make a dog do!

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[BA-IV]

You know you own a HOG DOG when you put more energy into catching the dog then the hog cuz you're wore out from tying hogs all day behind him.

[KevinN]

Yeah Ben....those kind are the kind you love.....and sometimes hate 

[Reuben]

I believe it can be trained...but I would rather cast the dogs back out myself than try to catch the dogs when I want to go home...

[hoghunter71409]

Before you 100% believe the Genetic stuff, you may want to do some research.  Google dog genetics and focus on DNA, Genes, Allels, and other basic terminology.  I think you will find that genetics is more closely aligned with things such as color, size, hair coat, and other anatomy and physiological similarities. 

[T-Bob Parker]

Yup, rolling out, hunt, bottom, bay style and so forth, it's all training. If you try hard enough you can train any dog to hunt, roll out have endless bottom and all that jazz.