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« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2013, 07:08:09 am » |
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Maybe I am the only one who see's this story for what it is isn't... But I didn't get the feel that the fella was in fear for his life due to the weather going to make him freeze to death. I also know he didn't loose the dog to not having a tracking system on him, and not knowing where he went. He knew exactly where the dog was and knew exactly what it was doing and left him. He even said in his words the boar "mangled" the pup a couple times, knew they were bayed on the bank of some water and going to be more than average cold. He knew the situation he left the dog in. To me it is pretty upsetting to see him leave the dog, to what he thought was going to be the dogs death, and go home and essentially brag on the internet that he had done it. I get that situations pop up that we are unsure about and bad things happen. But this winter storm that has been eating up the US is not a freak storm that popped up, it has been all over the news (if you live in the hills and do not have T.V. then again I apologize, no ill intentions meant).
Now there does no good in ragging on this fella. The only point I would like to get across to him IS $hit happens, and you HAVE to be prepared for anything!!! I leave my truck at 9 in the AM to run dogs... I take a flashlight. Will I need it? Probably not, but dogs keep rolling and moving further away and I might (just an example). You have to be prepared for anything to happen. Especially with the sounds of that dog your running!!! Sounds like a darn good dog you and I would be proud to feed!!!
Again if you were on the edge of loosing your life due to circumstances you had no control over, then piss on the dog your life is more important!!!
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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2013, 08:03:06 am » |
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That whole deal sounds like an unprepared cluster $$$$. No I wasn't there in the situation, but I agree with wine. I have never/would never leave a dog in the woods. I'll figure out a way to get that dog back one way or another. Never leave a dog behind
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2013, 09:29:28 am » |
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Good dog. Bad situation.
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Taylor S.
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hunting. an american tradition.
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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2013, 02:34:05 pm » |
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wine6978, are you a meteorologist? no one can predict the weather or what type of situation you will be stuck in for that matter, just because the dog stayed out there all night doesnt mean he shouldnt need dogs, i know many of people who have walked out of the woods and left their dogs there and went back early the next morning to go get em as soon as the sun came up and that gave them time to get help and go back out to retrievethe dog.
im glad everything worked out for you bud, sounds like you have a pretty good dog there better hang on to him.
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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2013, 06:31:46 pm » |
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That whole deal sounds like an unprepared cluster $$$$. No I wasn't there in the situation, but I agree with wine. I have never/would never leave a dog in the woods. I'll figure out a way to get that dog back one way or another. Never leave a dog behind
Never say never, i always said the same BUT I i have had to leave 1 dog in the woods, crazy things sometimes out of our control happen, just a fact of life. |
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"stupids in the water these days, they're gonna drink it anyway." - Chris Knight
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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2013, 06:48:58 pm » |
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[quote author=justincorbell link=topic=79489.msg482537#msg482537 date
Never say never, i always said the same BUT I i have had to leave 1 dog in the woods, crazy things sometimes out of our control happen, just a fact of life.
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Naw justin, just a super best, nothin ever happen, master hunter who is always prepaired and the gods of perfect weather. Just a bunch of blowhole bs. Must think their poo dont stink n they r the only 1s who should b in the woods. Nobody but them r perfect
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2013, 07:11:03 pm » |
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I have left my dogs many a time in the woods and have always got them back...the long range dogs that don't quit will do that to you now and then...but I give it my best shot to get them back...or be right back when I think they will be back to my sweaty T-shirt...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2013, 09:52:54 pm » |
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exactly what I did. I've had this post get back to me from a buddy who heard it from someone way off it's a ridiculous . i wish it would be deleted. my original post was about how long the dog bayed and I didn't like bay and shoot because if you cant get a good shot what are you gonna do. I realize it wasn't articulated perfectly. however I've been hunting with dogs my whole life and I still haven't lost one permanently in the woods. he's not gritty and was fine.
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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2013, 07:05:07 am » |
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[quote author=justincorbell link=topic=79489.msg482537#msg482537 date
Never say never, i always said the same BUT I i have had to leave 1 dog in the woods, crazy things sometimes out of our control happen, just a fact of life.
Naw justin, just a super best, nothin ever happen, master hunter who is always prepaired and the gods of perfect weather. Just a bunch of blowhole bs. Must think their poo dont stink n they r the only 1s who should b in the woods. Nobody but them r perfect [/quote] Yea!!! Darn those people that go through life prepared!!! They watch the weather. Never drop a dog without a tracking collar. Have everything they could hopefully need in the truck. Dang being responsible is a pain!!!! Lol |
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wine6978
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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2013, 07:07:20 am » |
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Haha $ hit happens and it sounds like this gentleman learned baying and shooting ain't for him!!! Congrats on the young dog hope he keeps on like he is for ya!!!
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charles
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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2013, 07:53:00 am » |
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Yea!!! Darn those people that go through life prepared!!! They watch the weather. Never drop a dog without a tracking collar. Have everything they could hopefully need in the truck. Dang being responsible is a pain!!!! Lol
And u hav nvr made a mistake, did something that u look back on as questionable, it wasnt wrong to do, but could have been done better? So u came out of the womb with full responcibility, a master of everything at 1 day old? UR full of it. U had to learn responcibility growing up, u have made mistakes in life, 1 of those mistakes is thinkin ur fully prepaired for any and everything that could come down the pipe, and another mistake is telling him he has no business owning dogs. Its not ur place to determine that, especially when u were not in his shoes at the time, nor did u offer to drive up there n help, u just sat in ur warm n fuzzy hm pounding the keys telling him he shouldnt have dogs bc he made a choice, may not have the perfect choice, but who is perfect? Oh, yea, u r, i forgot. But for the rest of the world, some choices are not the best, but its better to choose than go through life with no choice or clue of life |
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2013, 09:36:11 am » |
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See Charles it is obvious that your going to take anything I say and blow it the way that meets your opinion. That whole statement of me being born with all the responsibility was never said by me. Hell I have made some hellacious mistakes, just didn't make them public, but to each his own. People deal with things differently. And when someone comes on the internet with all these different views on here he is going to get opinions, and some everyone may not agree with. I stand by mine, if a man is going to think his dog is cut and knows 100% where it is and what it is doing and STILL leaves it in the woods to possibly die, I don't think they should own dogs. It's my opinion bud and I am allowed to have it. You think my opinion sucks, and that's great!!! This topic has gone WAY off subject and I see no point in continuing going back and forth with you!!! It is not productive to the subject!!! The fella got his dog back and probably learned one heck of a lesson!! So you keep thinking I am perfect and I will keep "sitting" here! I'm off to chase pigs homie!
Sorry for getting this subject so off topic, and I would like to say I agree my first post was harsh, but so is life!!!
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2013, 03:21:34 pm » |
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your right wine6978, I did take it out of context about coming out of the womb already knowing responsibility, but nothing else was taken out of context. u chastised jagd bc he didn't have a sleeping bag, a tent, snow shoes and an ammo can full of ammo ,along with a 4x4 tck when he went hunting. even if his dog was cut, he had to made a choice of getting out of there before he got weathered in and possibly became a cold weather casualty, or leaving his dog and coming back for the next day with help. so he made a bad choice of not being fully prepared for a cold weather hunt, but that does not mean he has no business owning dogs, or hunting. we have all made bad choices, and as long as we learn from them, then that's part of life, responsibility and growing up. yes life is hard, but u don't have to bust his ba!!s because he aint as perfect as you, might not have had the right person show him the ropes and so forth. your opinion is just like mine and a butthole, we both have 1, and they both don't smell like roses.
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