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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2013, 07:50:41 pm »

phil robertson for president ! charles for vice president  ! miss kay for nancy pelosis job , whatever that is   Grin



si robertson for president of aclu Wink Wink
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« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2013, 07:55:48 pm »

also, explain what the heck is the "Y" word

In England it is racially offensive to call a Jewish person a Yit.  Hence, like the N word, they use a letter to reference it.

In the 30's, there was an English town with a soccer team.  Both the town and the team were primarily Jewish.  Most of the Jewish people spoke Yittish.  The opposing teams would make a hissing sound (replicating the sound of gas in the execution chambers in Germany) ... give the Nazi salute ... and derogatorily call them Yits.  This was done to denigrate them.

Calling a Jewish person a Yit is similar to calling a black person the N word.

Neither word can be re-purposed.  They have a history of persecution and denigration.
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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2013, 07:58:42 pm »

if the 1st amendment is only to protect the government from discriminating against religion, then why is it that with every company out there, there is always the disclaimer or, "we are an equal opportunity employer and we do not discriminate against color, creed, sex, race and or religion"? let a privately owned company tell an applicant or employee that they did not get the job or is laid off, fired or suspended bc they are Christian, muslim, budist, or any other religious affiliated practice, and that person will have a law suite filed and will when before a cat can lick its a$$, with its tail up and tongue out. the 1st amendment is not to protect the people from religious discrimination, from just the government, but protection from any and all religious discrimination. if by signing a contract with any company, private or public, that contract can not say "sorry, we do not want you to use GOD, Alah, Buda" or any other religious figure of worship in any form or fashion of legal mumbo jumbo lingo.


This is simple.  Google 1st amendment and read what it says.
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« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2013, 08:09:57 pm »

To answer the employment aspect of your Q ... google "Employment Discrimination" and the Civil Rights Act of '64.
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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2013, 08:20:14 pm »

Ur right, its simple to google it. So how bout u google it n post it. What i found said "congress shall not pass laws against religious practice or force 1 religoin over another.  Then i want u to refuse employment to somebody based on their religion and lets see long before ur in court for religious discrimination.

So what part of phils interview of black folks civil rights offended u?
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« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2013, 08:43:25 pm »

 the great cowboy acter and comedian will rogers said " theres 2 theorys to arguing with a woman ... and neither 1 works "


john townsend says "theres 2 theorys to arguing with an atheist ... and guess what - neither 1 works"  Grin
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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2013, 09:18:37 pm »

Political Correctness is the far lefts weapon of choice against anything and everything that's American.  Anything that makes America great. By waging war on any American they find offensive when nothing offensive may have been said. To miss-represent in anyway, shape, form or fashion they can to tare down great American Like Phil Robertson and they will do their best to tare down what built this country. The Media is a powerful force and a strong arm of the far left. The far left WILL the media wildly striking all they oppose or anyone that opposes them.




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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2013, 09:46:04 pm »

Well looky here...........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/21/phil-robertson-duck-dynasty-return_n_4485646.html
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« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2013, 10:17:46 pm »

i wonder now if it wasn't just a scheme by a n e to boost rating further . even if it was it has helped the christian cause .

thats what happens when people know where they stand - and stand there .
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« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2013, 10:40:23 pm »

Its good to see the a&e found the correct path, but in all honesty, unless that family has squandered their celeb money and need the a&e gig, the entire family should have told a&e to get bent and sought another company to do their tv show with, or just go back to their roots of duck calls n small a family ran hunting outfit. Tv companies are like family dogs, all hunky dorry till the dog bites the hand that feeds them. Can the dog be trusted again? An old sayin my pops used to tell me comes to mind, "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Instead of "fool" replace it with "suspend".

The q&a that got suspended was diliberate. Knowing his bible thumping beliefs, they ask a question to which they already knew the answer to, and if they didnt, then that in its self helps air out whats wrong with this country, and that falls on both gq and the pr person assigned to phil from a&e, especially during a time when the butt diddlers are full steam ahead for full recognition of their disturbed minds in thinkin homosexuallity in an acceptable life style for EVERYBODY. This past i have seen an explosion in pro gay tv propaganda and tv shows. 1 tv show comes to mind, OWN, where i say and head a guy say "he finds it hard being a gay christian, but this gay camp helps ease the pain of being gay", or something to that effect.
Yes the bible says that we are GODS children and jesus forgives us of our sins if we accept him in out hearts and repent our sins, but it also says that its against GOD's will for 2 men to lay together and know each other.
So how is being gay, a good christian? Ok, he possiblly accepted Christ into his heat, but by not repenting his sin of laying with another man and continuing to do it. Again, how is that being a good christian? Its like wiping before u poop, it dont make sence.  Huh?
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« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2013, 11:14:26 pm »

according to to phil robertson and me (and the good lord ) there is no such thing as a gay christian .
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« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2013, 11:25:34 pm »

Add 1 more to that list !!
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« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2013, 11:44:53 pm »

according to to phil robertson and me (and the good lord ) there is no such thing as a gay christian .

Sure there is, just like them unicorns fillin the skys
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« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2013, 07:32:14 am »

Ur right, its simple to google it. So how bout u google it n post it. What i found said "congress shall not pass laws against religious practice or force 1 religoin over another.  Then i want u to refuse employment to somebody based on their religion and lets see long before ur in court for religious discrimination.

Charles, you are confusing the 1st Amendment and the Civil Rights Act. 

The 1st Amendment states ... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".[/I]

The Civil Right Act of '64  ... "prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin".


So the 1st Amendment prohibits the government from imposing a religion ... and the CRA '64 prohibits employment discrimination based on religion.

Neither of these are being violated in this situation.  A&E is not a government entity and therefore is not violating the 1st Amendment.  They clearly did not discriminate against Phil when they hired him.  Do not confuse these as protecting an employee for saying anything anytime they want.  They can't discriminate against someone because of their religion but that doesn't give the employee the right to espouse those views in the workplace or cause the employer problems when they do espouse them.
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« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2013, 07:37:20 am »

So what part of phils interview of black folks civil rights offended u?

I think his implication that Blacks were better off and happy, etc. prior to the Civil Rights movement is a nostalgic revision of what life was like then.  There was segregation, lynchings, open discrimination, dehumanizing degradation, Jim Crow laws, voting laws meant to prohibit them from voting, etc.  It was akin to someone stating "prior to emancipation ... they were happy and not complaining".  It just has a tone about it that is insensitive and blind to the injustices that were being inflicted upon one sector of our society.
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« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2013, 07:44:51 am »



I am not sure that is a change in the A&E position.  They have already filmed all but one of the episodes for next year.  So yes, they are airing them.  That does not change the suspension of Phil.

Now here is an irony.  Earlier this year Phil announced that he was leaving the show.  As I recall he stated that he had lost interest in it.  His oldest son, Alan, who is a pastor in California and doesn't work at Duck Commander nor does he have a beard ... was joining the show.

So Phil was leaving before this controversy.

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« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2013, 07:59:08 am »


Now here is an irony.  Earlier this year Phil announced that he was leaving the show.  As I recall he stated that he had lost interest in it.  His oldest son, Alan, who is a pastor in California and doesn't work at Duck Commander nor does he have a beard ... was joining the show.

So Phil was leaving before this controversy.



Do you have a link for this assertion.
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« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2013, 08:47:19 am »


Now here is an irony.  Earlier this year Phil announced that he was leaving the show.  As I recall he stated that he had lost interest in it.  His oldest son, Alan, who is a pastor in California and doesn't work at Duck Commander nor does he have a beard ... was joining the show.

So Phil was leaving before this controversy.



Do you have a link for this assertion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/phil-robertson-leaving-duck-dynasty_n_3661012.html
This article was from July '13, long before this controversy. 

In an interview with Parade magazine, the reality star admitted that he and "Duck Dynasty" aren't in it for the long haul.

When asked how much longer he would be involved with the show, Robertson, "Not long," noting that he thought the show itself would be fine. "I think it'll go on without me."

"Duck Dynasty," which stars the camo-wearing, bearded duck-hunting Robertson family, certainly hasn't struggled in the ratings recently. The Season 3 finale brought in 9.6 million viewers -- and 5.5 million in the coveted 18-49 demo -- making it the most-watched telecast in A&E history among all key demos.

Although "Duck Dynasty" could be losing its patriarch in the not-so-distant future, it's also gaining a Robertson in Season 4. Alan, a 47-year-old pastor, is leaving his station in Louisiana to join his family on their adventure.

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« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2013, 09:10:00 am »

So u were on the same cotton farm and worked side by side with phil n the colored folks and those folks expressed to u that they were unhappy and couldnt wait for the civil rights laws to be passed. U found his comment of his personel experience with the black folks he worked with on a daily basis offensive?  Come on, it sounds more like u just had to throw somethn else out there to help discredit phil. That athiest mentality has clouded ur limited judgement, another anti-chritian act to help remove the christian beliefs from the true american people. U just chose a topic to speak on just to stir the proverbial chit pot.
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« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2013, 09:22:46 am »

 oh, and u are right, I was getting the crl and the 1st amendment confused. but from what I saw on the google search for the 1st amendment, the link I opened had the bill of rights and during the explination of each amendment, what I found was what now seems to be the crl of 64.
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