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« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2013, 09:23:22 pm »

The only thing about asking someone an opinion on a dog you still won't ever know because people judge dogs so differently one mans junk is another mans treasure and so on. And a lot of people get kennel blindness they think they have something a lot better than what it really is. But you won't ever know if you like them or not until you spend the 1 grand and buy one and try it out. Good luck

Bingo, well said
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« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2013, 09:28:42 pm »

No Pugh I agree never know till I try one. I did learn one thing from this thread dogos are more expensive than I thought. Thinking I'll just keep on catching hogs with these yard bred bulldogs that have been in the family for many a years. Reckon if it ain't broke don't fix it
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« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2013, 09:33:55 pm »

No Pugh I agree never know till I try one. I did learn one thing from this thread dogos are more expensive than I thought. Thinking I'll just keep on catching hogs with these yard bred bulldogs that have been in the family for many a years. Reckon if it ain't broke don't fix it

Probably good thinkin. I just don't hear enough about jam up Dogos to even consider buying one. And the few you hear about they want 2k for. There's no way I m spending that money for a glorified catch dog. I know a lot of folks say they hunt but hell if I wanted to turn my abd loose and possibly get him killed I could, he's got more hunt then some cur dogs. Point is I hunt to hear the bay and catch a. Hog. If you runnin Dogos that are rcd and catch a 250 lb nasty boar with teeth 1/2 a mile away. Don't ya reckon your 2k will be gone that much faster? Just my 2 cents
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« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2013, 10:16:58 pm »

Lacy man, I have seen a few people say they haven't heard of a lot of jam up dogos. But really just as the feller who made this thread said, he don't know but a few people that have them. If you only know two people running dogos chances are they're not going to be jam up. Most hog hunters have at least one bull dog in the yard therefore we hear of a lot more jam up bull dogs then dogos.
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« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2013, 11:00:44 pm »

Lacy man, I have seen a few people say they haven't heard of a lot of jam up dogos. But really just as the feller who made this thread said, he don't know but a few people that have them. If you only know two people running dogos chances are they're not going to be jam up. Most hog hunters have at least one bull dog in the yard therefore we hear of a lot more jam up bull dogs then dogos.
So your saying if he buys 2 dogos for let's say 3 grand considering he has to drive or have them shipped to him probably have more than 3000 in them but anyway " they won't be jam up" maybe average or below  that's a lot of money to pay to have a half ass rcd or lead in catch dog. From the videos I have seen of them catching they had to breed all that lung capacity in them because they knaw and when they regrip they usually let go and have to do a rundown. How many would he have to get to get one that would be jam up at something
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« Reply #45 on: December 25, 2013, 11:23:37 pm »

That's not what I said at all. My dogos also don't regrip
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« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2013, 12:32:23 am »

I have never owned a dogo or ever hunted with one most every one here in south Arkansas uses pits as their catch dogs. There are very few dogos around here that I know of and most of them aren't even being put to work. Im considering on getting one and wanting to know their pros and cons compared to apbt

I have 4 Dogos on my yard right now. Have been hunting with the breed for several years. There are many very high quality Dogos being raised by hunters in Texas, you just don't see them posting on ETHD very often.

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They can be used many different ways, lead in, running down with curs, sent from long range when conditions are right, hunted by themselves with no help, they can even wind off the box.

On the average they should be pretty fast with good wind able to run a long distance and still hold for a good while.

Longer leg and longer neck allow them to hold with less damage.

A big Dogo can "handle" a big boar alone, they are not dead weight hanging on an ear. This can also help reduce damage taken by the dog.

I expect them to be catching small pigs before they shed their baby teeth, and hunting and catching with help by 10 months.

Slow maturing dogs are not desirable but are common in some lines.

Dog aggression should not be tolerated but is a problem in some lines.

Re-gripping should not be tolerated but is a problem in some lines.

They are not better than a pit if you are in very thick cover and leading in close all the time.

In the more open ground they are very hard to beat.

Don't get one from a breeder, bet one from a hunter who has generation after generation of proven hunting dogs.
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« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2013, 11:39:54 am »

I ran with a dogo imported directly from the Martinez family in Argentina. First time we went out, the dog was less than a year. He didn't range at all. He growled at a 7 year old boy and started a fight with a pit (was also snapping at hands when trying to break up the fight.) Second time we went out, he wouldn't go into a bay. We walked him right in within 20 feet, but he wouldn't cross a stream to get to the pig. Third time we went out was at a high fence. He caught a sub-100 lb pig that was already caught by a jagdterrier. The second hog was about 180 lbs. He was slapped on the way in. He sat back and bayed. That 3000 dollar, imported dogo was culled.

I have ran with three other dogos. All of them have been slow to start. Don't expect a finished catch dog until they are two years old. 90% of the pits from the pound will catch hard at six months. Dogos do have a great gait. They are fast too. I think if you crossed one with a game-bred pit you may end up with something a little quicker starting and rougher on hogs.
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« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2013, 12:07:15 pm »

I ran with a dogo imported directly from the Martinez family in Argentina. First time we went out, the dog was less than a year. He didn't range at all. He growled at a 7 year old boy and started a fight with a pit (was also snapping at hands when trying to break up the fight.) Second time we went out, he wouldn't go into a bay. We walked him right in within 20 feet, but he wouldn't cross a stream to get to the pig. Third time we went out was at a high fence. He caught a sub-100 lb pig that was already caught by a jagdterrier. The second hog was about 180 lbs. He was slapped on the way in. He sat back and bayed. That 3000 dollar, imported dogo was culled.

I have ran with three other dogos. All of them have been slow to start. Don't expect a finished catch dog until they are two years old. 90% of the pits from the pound will catch hard at six months. Dogos do have a great gait. They are fast too. I think if you crossed one with a game-bred pit you may end up with something a little quicker starting and rougher on hogs.

I believe this post sums it's up for me if I was ever considering getting a dogo. ( which I am not)
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I believe this post sums it's up for me if I was ever considering getting a dogo. ( which I am not)



Yep, I would agree.....Argentina might not be the best place to get one.
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« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2013, 02:25:10 pm »

It seems like some guys may be looking in the wrong places for a dogo.  I certainly would not spend 3000 on any dog that I have not seen do hid or her job on multiple occasions- and then I still could not afford 3000.  Why would someone look at the pound for a pit, but then looks in another country for a dogo?  I believe there are many good dogos around, people just not doing a lot of bragging on them.  There are not a bunch of people bragging about pits either until it comes comparison time on the www.  American bulldogs can be just as good or better then the dogo or pitt- you just have to look in the right place.
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« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2013, 03:13:24 pm »

3000 is ridiculous ..... i didnt sleep for 2 days when i paid 600 for mine ! lol
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« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2013, 08:32:39 pm »

3000 is ridiculous ..... i didnt sleep for 2 days when i paid 600 for mine ! lol

Yep, but things add up quick when you are importing a dog. Martinez is the guy who created the breed. The dog was from the original dogo lines. Anyway, it was a pos. I am not saying all of them are. I am just saying the few I have seen didn't impress me. I like fast starting dogs with high prey drive.
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« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2013, 09:15:49 pm »

I got my dogo from the same breeder you are talking about and didn't pay anywhere near 3000 for mine.
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« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2013, 02:59:21 am »

I got mine from a guy in granbury who had both of his imported and he hunts both of his as RCD's.  The male he has is a pretty impressive looking dog.  I didn't show my pup a hog till 10 months, prior to this he never showed any aggression to anything much less even barked, but the second he saw a hog he went nuts.  First pig he saw was a 200+ lb boar and after a tussle and figured out the ear on the fly.  He was caught anchored and didn't regrip! The guy I got him from kept a male liter mate and at 9 months old he had struck and held many hogs.  But in the end it's to each their own, I've seen a catahoula run away from a bayed up sounder so does that mean I think they are crap... Not at all. JMO
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« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2013, 06:08:44 am »




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« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2013, 06:58:49 am »

I got my dogo from the same breeder you are talking about and didn't pay anywhere near 3000 for mine.
It was 1400 for the dog and approximately 1600 for the flight, shipping container and health certificate. How much did you pay?
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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2013, 12:26:48 pm »

There are Dogos on the dog trade here from time to time for $500 to $1000.  That's not crazy expensive.  So the people who get them just need to post updates.
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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2013, 12:41:06 pm »

I got my dogo from the same breeder you are talking about and didn't pay anywhere near 3000 for mine.
It was 1400 for the dog and approximately 1600 for the flight, shipping container and health certificate. How much did you pay?

Most recent my pops paid 600 for the pup & 800 for shipping.
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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2013, 02:11:06 pm »

I got my dogo from the same breeder you are talking about and didn't pay anywhere near 3000 for mine.
It was 1400 for the dog and approximately 1600 for the flight, shipping container and health certificate. How much did you pay?

Most recent my pops paid 600 for the pup & 800 for shipping.

That is reasonable. This dog was purchased as a "started" hog dog, so I paid more. It is also lot more expensive to ship an adult size dogo then a pup.  The dog was a beautiful dog. He had great conformation, and probably would have been great in a show ring. He just wasn't any kind of dog I would hunt with. As I said earlier, I like fast-starting dogs with high prey drive. I wish any of the dogos would have worked out. I love the build of the dogo. They have speed and stamina. I was very disappointed with the way the turned out. Again, this was just my experience with four consecutive dogs from four different breeders. It is possible I just got four culls.
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