Baying Technique??

[J Carroll]

This may sound stupid but only been hunting for about three years now, so I've a lot to learn yet. I'm thinking I know how my dogs bay, but could be wrong, as I only hunt at night and never get the chance to set and watch my dogs work. Here lately it seems every hunt I go on there is a couple mile race. Needless to say I'm getting flat tired of getting out ran by these wild A** pigs. It is pretty thick country. These dogs find pigs consistently....very consistently, but I think they are doing one of two things, and that is either putting too much teeth on them or not enough. I've never worked any of my bay dogs in a pin because I don't believe that you could really tell much about their "baying technique" in that type of setting, as it is not anywhere close to reality. Not saying I am right, that is just what I believe. Any thoughts???

[Peachcreek]

My thoughts are if you are in really thick country, getting outrun is just part of it. Chances are your dogs are not getting anywhere close enough to the hog to put teeth on it. I am in no way saying your dogs are slow or suck we hunt thick east texas stuff almost every weekend. The best way i have found to stop the running sob's is to run the air out of them. We ran a 60 lb sow saturday for 3 hours then i kicked my chrissy dog to the race and within ten minutes we had a cought hog. Get them runnin suckers tired and kick a fast dog to em to get the hog to give up. Cold pack that ass or get some straight up rough yellers that i keep hearing about that will shut down a runner. Lol.... i have invited some of those guys with me in the past and they haven't made a believer out of me yet. Good luck

[KevinN]

Day time hunts....bout the only way your gonna know for sure their tendencies.

[t-dog]

I agree with both of you guys, but I have a couple questions for you? How often do you hunt where you are getting out run? How many dogs are you putting on the ground at one time? Have you added or changed any dogs in your pack?




















There are several reasons why you might be getting races all of a sudden. Change in dogs like adding or taking away dogs from your pack. A new dog might be causing the problem or a dog taken out of it might have been the reason they were staying bayed. Hunting the same place too often could have an effect. Too many dogs on the ground at once might cause this too. The other guys are right though, you gotta know your dogs before you can assess them. That speed is hard to beat and so are the right kind of biting dogs. The wrong kind of rough is just one more head ache to deal with and speed is no good if they won't stay hooked. JMO, good luck. By the way, what part of the world are you hunting?

[Shotgun wg]

I figure a pen is a good way to get an idea. A dog that is loose in a pen will more than likely be looser in the woods. A dog that is catchy in a pen is probly rough in the woods. One that gets a lil rough in a pen is probly a lil looser in the woods.

The reason I say this is self preservation. In a pen u have room to move and can work accordingly. In the woods there are more things in the way and u have to work around them and look for the right opportunity. Myself if a dog catches in a pen I'm straight in don't check up leg the hog. In the woods I will get in there but I have to pick my way in tight as to not get hammered. I have to use a lil more caution due to obstructions.

I may be way off base but I have had my dogs in a pen and this is how they tend to act . I use a pen mostly during deer season to work dogs and just have fun. They like to hunt and when we hit the woods they hunt.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[oconee]

Take you best dog and a couple good lead-in catch dogs and go catch them hogs.   They will take one bay dog a lot better than several.  Even two is too much sometimes.   This is not full-proof but I can promise you that you'll notice a difference.

[Circle T kennels]

I think Peach Creek nailed it

[J Carroll]

I am hunting in south central Oklahoma. You all make very good points. I run two yella dogs and my buddy always runs two also. I have thought that the number of dogs could be a problem. I think Peachcreek has a pretty good idea. We did catch a nice boar in the snow last night with some dog killers sticking out of his head.

[Reuben]

Take you best dog and a couple good lead-in catch dogs and go catch them hogs.   They will take one bay dog a lot better than several.  Even two is too much sometimes.   This is not full-proof but I can promise you that you'll notice a difference.

x2...I agree with you Oconee...I also agrre with the other posts above yours as well...

the thing about hogs in thick country puts all dogs at a disadvantage because no dog can bust through the thick brusk like a hog can...hogs know this so they run for those places... they can stop and rest until they hear the dogs and run again...

too many dogs and they will make the hog break...but super rough dogs in the right setting will stop the hog but lots of times the hog will break...

[Cooter56]

Here in Florida during deer season most people hunt with deer hounds. This tends to make the hogs more apt to run and not bay. We don't get short races or quick bays until the late spring or early summer. I geese that's because the hogs have time to settle down. When it is deer season or right after like now I like to use Peachcreeks method. Start out with 2 dogs and as they wear down pack some rested dogs to the hog and catch the tired dogs. The hog will eventually wear down and bay. The last weekend of deer season we ran a sow for 3 hours in big circles. She kept trying to cross the paved road into the marsh but would hear the truck coming. Every time she'd cross a little trail I'd pack some heat to her. Took a while but we finally caught her. Just my way of doing it, and around here it's the way it goes. Good luck.

[Bigboy84]

I agree with oconee the more dogs you have on the ground raises  the chance of making a runner  I believe they will stand there ground with one dog


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[Peachcreek]

We will see;)