Cooter56
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« on: February 03, 2014, 01:48:43 pm » |
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Well let me start with my three main dogs. They went from finding hogs with no problem and not trashing at all, to trashing and not finding any hogs. Then theres my two younger dogs ive raised from pups and were getting really good and now theyre trashing even after trash breaking them. Ive used several measures of breaking them from this some more severe than others. Nothing has seemed to work. These dogs had a good reputation and now theyve become a pure embarrasment. Need some sugestions before I get rid of all of them.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2014, 01:59:30 pm » |
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What kind of hog numbers do u have. I have trashy dogs as well. I find that mine prefer to run hogs but when the hogs get scarce they trash lots more. If I hunt a place with good numbers or good sign regular they don't trash. Lay off very long or numbers and sign get low and it's back to square one.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2014, 02:05:47 pm » |
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It generally varies. The place I went yesterday was over run with hogs and they did the same thing.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2014, 07:09:06 pm » |
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A couple notes:
1) Most of us have had some type of similar experience, not matter how long we've been hunting....you are not alone.
2) You are your own worst critic and you are probably judging yourself pretty hard. I bet if you went out and caught a giant boar tomorrow, you would keep the dogs that found him.
3) Starting over and being back at square one, doesn't necessarily mean you will be better off. Some of the best dogs I've seen were trashy at some point. Some dogs just have so much hunt that their nose and desire to run and bay/catch takes over.
4) Before you do anything...wait a little longer. Some people say "doing nothing is not an option". I say in some scenarios " doing nothing is the best option". Keep trying the dogs. Do something different or switch places or partners.
Don't know if this helps....if none of this works, I guess start over.
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justincorbell
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2014, 07:54:29 pm » |
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What are they trashing on? Anything and everything or 1 animal in particular?
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Cooter56
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2014, 08:12:56 pm » |
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Hoghunter71409 you're right I am pretty hard on my self. I'm still pretty new at this hog hunting thing and I get pretty aggravated when my dogs don't act right after all the time I've put into them. And justincorbell, they only trash on armodillos, nothing else. Only thing I haven't tried is a shock collar. I've tried everything else I've been told. Just haven't been able to afford a shock system.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2014, 08:20:57 pm » |
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my buddy's dogs are some of the best ive hunted behind, and they go through stages where they trash on armadillos too. ive always been told that armadillos have a similar scent to a hog, im not sure if its true, but it makes since considering your dogs and my buddy's dogs will ONLY trash on armadillos.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2014, 08:30:08 pm » |
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Dillers smell just like a pig and our young dogs trash on them occasionally. Best thing that has worked for us and has been a long time trash breaking technique is let them go ahead and catch it. When it kills it take a piece of mule tape and tie that driller to the dogs collar and let it ride the dog for a week or so. I promise you that dog will hate a driller so bad after that it wouldn't bat an eye at one the next time you run across one.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2014, 08:48:32 pm » |
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Dillers smell just like a pig and our young dogs trash on them occasionally. Best thing that has worked for us and has been a long time trash breaking technique is let them go ahead and catch it. When it kills it take a piece of mule tape and tie that driller to the dogs collar and let it ride the dog for a week or so. I promise you that dog will hate a driller so bad after that it wouldn't bat an eye at one the next time you run across one.
my dad had a ab that would chase all his chickens and kill them. so he zip tied a dead chicken to his collar and left it on there until it stunk so bad that you could smell it as soon as you went in the back yard. me being the son, my dad had me go cut it off, the daggum dog picked it up and finished eating what was left and went after another chicken! needless to say, my dad built a chicken coop the next day haha
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2014, 08:53:59 pm » |
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Dillers smell just like a pig and our young dogs trash on them occasionally. Best thing that has worked for us and has been a long time trash breaking technique is let them go ahead and catch it. When it kills it take a piece of mule tape and tie that driller to the dogs collar and let it ride the dog for a week or so. I promise you that dog will hate a driller so bad after that it wouldn't bat an eye at one the next time you run across one.
my dad had a ab that would chase all his chickens and kill them. so he zip tied a dead chicken to his collar and left it on there until it stunk so bad that you could smell it as soon as you went in the back yard. me being the son, my dad had me go cut it off, the daggum dog picked it up and finished eating what was left and went after another chicken! needless to say, my dad built a chicken coop the next day haha that's funny
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Cooter56
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2014, 09:00:49 pm » |
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Junior Seffern, I've been told that trick by several people. Really been worried about that smell. But I guess it's worth a shot. Thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2014, 09:08:13 pm » |
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It works but it does stink! It's worth a week or so of stench for a broke dog though
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justincorbell
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 10:08:57 pm » |
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Cooter56, im sendin you a pm.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2014, 10:11:17 pm » |
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Just lettum kill all them dillers and get em out of the way. That's what an ol timer told me he did when his coon dogs trashed on possums.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2014, 11:25:12 pm » |
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Wish dillo's was all mine trashed on. Atleast they don't bay them they just kill em.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 11:38:12 pm » |
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I always look at a armidllos kinda like a dollar bill the wind is blowing. If you see a dollar bill blowing your gonna chase it! That's the way dogs see armadillos! Maybe you need to go out one night and leave the dogs at home take your 22 and kill a few or change the place your hunting to where there's more hogs than armadillos. Sounds to me like they are getting bored and just wanting to kill something. I know myself when I'm out hunting for a certain animal and not getting much action after awhile there's no animal safe!
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Cooter56
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2014, 08:00:57 am » |
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The older two of my three main dogs will not bay at one in a hole, they just kill them and move on. But when its a bunch of armadillos back to back and no hog it gets old. My younger dogs will def bay at one in a hole, and even run one for a ways. I live and hunt in north florida and the hogs are plentiful but the armadillos are more plentiful. SCK, every time I see an armadillo I either shoot it with my 17 or run it over with my truck. Ive grown a pure hatred for the little daddy didn't marry mommys. Junior Seffern, Im def gonna try it. What can it hurt?
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 08:39:19 am » |
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If you've killed one FOR your dogs, herein lies part of the problem......I killed a yote for mine because he was putting up a pretty good fight, BAD MOVE on my part!!!!
Ante up and get a shock collar.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 10:10:18 am » |
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A couple notes:
1) Most of us have had some type of similar experience, not matter how long we've been hunting....you are not alone.
2) You are your own worst critic and you are probably judging yourself pretty hard. I bet if you went out and caught a giant boar tomorrow, you would keep the dogs that found him.
3) Starting over and being back at square one, doesn't necessarily mean you will be better off. Some of the best dogs I've seen were trashy at some point. Some dogs just have so much hunt that their nose and desire to run and bay/catch takes over.
4) Before you do anything...wait a little longer. Some people say "doing nothing is not an option". I say in some scenarios " doing nothing is the best option". Keep trying the dogs. Do something different or switch places or partners.
Don't know if this helps....if none of this works, I guess start over.
A couple notes:
1) Most of us have had some type of similar experience, not matter how long we've been hunting....you are not alone.
2) You are your own worst critic and you are probably judging yourself pretty hard. I bet if you went out and caught a giant boar tomorrow, you would keep the dogs that found him.
3) Starting over and being back at square one, doesn't necessarily mean you will be better off. Some of the best dogs I've seen were trashy at some point. Some dogs just have so much hunt that their nose and desire to run and bay/catch takes over.
4) Before you do anything...wait a little longer. Some people say "doing nothing is not an option". I say in some scenarios " doing nothing is the best option". Keep trying the dogs. Do something different or switch places or partners.
Don't know if this helps....if none of this works, I guess start over.
This seems like some pretty good advice. There are times when I get impatient though not with dogs as much as when I'm deer hunting and squirrel hunting and nothing is safe like SCK said Sent from my LG-P769 using Tapatalk
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2014, 11:03:49 am » |
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Try this. Instead of just casting your dogs, put them on a lead and walk them over tracks or rooting and if you know they smell it, turn loose. If I walk one of my hounds across a track and they dont pull on it or show me that they smell it, I load and go on.
If they are winding or rigging, check and see if you think it is a hog. If you have a lot of hogs, turn out on what you think is the freshest. Some hogs will root all the way to the bedding area. I would not cast dogs or put them on the ground until I was sure it was hog sign. Keep feeding hog tracks and sign.
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