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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2014, 10:06:30 am » |
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he was 4 months old back then Rueben , I haven't taken any new pic's lol he's around 18 month's old now . and except for being hard headed and wired 440 he's doing real good . still on the smaller side around 45lbs. but he stays thin and could use around 5 more lbs to round him out .
he has given me some pups [ catxmnt cur ] and [ plottxmnt cur ] that I didn't want at the time lol and I still have several to get rid of . they are around 6 months old and they were good crosses regardless of my negligence . real gamey dogs .
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2014, 10:42:07 am » |
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Rueben I tried to look up dudes pedigree on the sdc data base and he is listed but not his lineage . are they the busher type curs ? they have the look and build of it .
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2014, 11:34:02 am » |
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I believe the owner said mostly busher, huntsman and streak...maybe a little plott..  I like the size and this winnings between the three are a plus.... |
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2014, 12:24:53 pm » |
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lol yeah the busher boy's cuss streak for the supposedly fiest blood in him , and the streak boy's cuss the bushers dogs for the supposedly plott blood lol hell boy's they is cur dogs , they didn't drop from the womb one day decades ago a pure mnt. cur dog lol
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2014, 07:06:06 pm » |
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lol yeah the busher boy's cuss streak for the supposedly fiest blood in him , and the streak boy's cuss the bushers dogs for the supposedly plott blood lol hell boy's they is cur dogs , they didn't drop from the womb one day decades ago a pure mnt. cur dog lol
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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2014, 11:25:59 pm » |
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Grit. Mnt Cur x catahoula. Loose bay, colder nose,TONS of hunt and bottom. You never have to ask this dog to get ahead or hunt. He always wants to be the lead dog. Wish I knew more about the mnt cur blood in him.  |
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2014, 11:56:27 am » |
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Grit. Mnt Cur x catahoula. Loose bay, colder nose,TONS of hunt and bottom. You never have to ask this dog to get ahead or hunt. He always wants to be the lead dog. Wish I knew more about the mnt cur blood in him. I like mt curs because of their hunt and nose...these dogs about have the right range and style for me...I sure don't want a dog that will go a mile before he settles down to hunt...and don't want one under my feet...3-4 hundred yards to one side and come running by at a lope to the other side for a 3-4 hundred yard loop is about right...that is covering a lot of ground and the dog is hunting with me...if the dogs are not seen for a while pull the tracker because they probably have one bayed somewhere...or running one... some have pm'ed me and asked what I think of them...well I have hunted them for many years and if I thought there were better out there I would hunt some other breed...not saying there isn't but I like them for the medium nose to cold nose for tracking and winding, the ability to find game, sticking with the track and plenty of grit...back in the old days they used them on all game including bear and hog...I didn't know anyone who ran hogs with them when I first started using them but there are some that do now...some folks don't like the range or no quit in these dogs but that is a trait that all good to great hunting dogs should possess...there are probably lots of mt curs that I would consider culls just like there are in other breeds...but I won't hesitate to buy a pup from a coon and squirrel line of dogs...but not just from squirrel dogs...at least with a coon dog line we know that the dog may have to trail a long ways to catch the coon on the ground or put him up a tree...if the dog kills the coon one on one then I know he has what it takes to put teeth on a hog...and I like the old style dogs of the 50-60 pounds with plenty of leg, speed, fast tracking, good ear on them as well...I don't like chrome on a dog but on the chest and throat it is ok...if the dogs are already houndy you can cross a parker or a good line of BMC to quiet them down a little on track and to get some size on them...or...if they are too feisty, then add some plott or walker and then breed back to mt cur...lots of options...that's about the way my logic goes...I like papers to see what is what and who is who and then they are filed... |
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2014, 08:34:02 pm » |
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lol yeah the busher boy's cuss streak for the supposedly fiest blood in him , and the streak boy's cuss the bushers dogs for the supposedly plott blood lol hell boy's they is cur dogs , they didn't drop from the womb one day decades ago a pure mnt. cur dog lol
I wouldn't own a carl smith mt cur on account they are small and look like fiest dogs...but he has shown everyone that his Smith Streak dogs can win consistently...he has to be one heck of a dog man to be able to win with his dogs on a regular basis...probably can pick a winner and then he must train them to their maximum potential... |
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2014, 06:58:16 am » |
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 here my little Mnt Curr jojo. I bought him from a man in north east texas says the breeder lives just across the river in Oklahoma. All I know is he is the best mannered dog and is a hunting machine long range not gritty but will put teeth in one. If he barks you can bet there is a hog in front of him. First Mnt I have owned and had made me a believer. I'm hoping to breed him one day just haven't figured out what route to go. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2014, 07:45:58 am » |
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Those are some good looking dogs. There is a guy named Rick from Ok. He is on the Parker board. He hunts Kemmer Mtn. curs & he catches a lot of hogs.
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2014, 09:48:37 am » |
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I'm just now looking at trying out some hog hunting but have been in to the mt curs for a good little while. Only squirrel and coon hunted them in the past. The Kemmer lines always seemed to cross over on hogs well from what I've seen and heard. The older/bigger dogs with the busher/huntsman stuff also. Which is where the briar mt dogs come from with the exception of the rumors of the plott and walker crossed into some of them. But in defense of the streak bred dogs my little gyp which is as streak bred as you can get did bay 2 hogs one day in the Mississippi delta. I pretty sure she just ran into them in the palmettos but it proved halfbreeds statement about tree dogs baying.
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2014, 07:34:26 pm » |
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Everyone has there preference in dogs, mine is mt curs. I have owned 40-50 of them and currently have 11. My favorite is busher and kemmer breeding. My dogs are smart, hunt hard, and catch hogs. They breed true, consistently reproducing the same quality as the parents. I have hunted damn near every breed that's out there and never found anything that suited my style of hunting like the mt cur.
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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2014, 07:53:45 pm » |
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Everyone has there preference in dogs, mine is mt curs. I have owned 40-50 of them and currently have 11. My favorite is busher and kemmer breeding. My dogs are smart, hunt hard, and catch hogs. They breed true, consistently reproducing the same quality as the parents. I have hunted damn near every breed that's out there and never found anything that suited my style of hunting like the mt cur.
what is the average weight for your females and males? Kemmer is all right but I like mixing original mt cur with kemmer...but my favorite by far was the Texas Smoke bred dogs...but a good mt cur can hunt with the best... |
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2014, 01:49:28 pm » |
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Everyone has there preference in dogs, mine is mt curs. I have owned 40-50 of them and currently have 11. My favorite is busher and kemmer breeding. My dogs are smart, hunt hard, and catch hogs. They breed true, consistently reproducing the same quality as the parents. I have hunted damn near every breed that's out there and never found anything that suited my style of hunting like the mt cur.
what is the average weight for your females and males? Kemmer is all right but I like mixing original mt cur with kemmer...but my favorite by far was the Texas Smoke bred dogs...but a good mt cur can hunt with the best... My females are 35-50 and males are 50-70. I too prefer to mix kemmer and omc. I like gold nugget crossed with heavy busher and don't mind an eighth streak. I love the hunt of heavy streak breeding but hate what it does to size and conformation. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2014, 04:11:34 pm » |
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That Boone Dock dog is nice. He's out on mike which is a littermate to dude. Maybe not same litter but same cross. Dude mike rebel and some others I can't recall names of are all better than average tree dogs. Hustle wind ability and nose is in all of them. That budxliz cross that produced them was potent. Of course like all good cur dogs their lineage is questionable. Heard plenty times that Liz had a treeing walker for a mom. I don't care good dogs is good dogs. I think mr Ronnie rakestraw in Mississippi made that cross. It seams to me that those dogs crossed good over some of the streak stuff. But that streak blood can hurt the size of the finished product.
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« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2014, 06:00:47 pm » |
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I guarantee the bud Liz stuff crosses great on streak. Anytime you breed heavy busher dogs to streak blood the offspring preform well.
The downside is that most will be smaller than their busher ancestry. Some a tad smaller and some a whole lot smaller. Size doesn't affect performance but I prefer a bigger dog. At the end of the day the man feeding the dogs opinion is all that matters
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2014, 06:03:24 pm » |
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Some good info men....I appreciate it
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