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« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2014, 01:01:16 pm »

 
People doctoring  papers!

and it seems the foundation is good bout doctoring papers, but cast stones at those that do it within that registry, AND bringing in any ole' mutt to use as an outcross and then throw it on the papers. buncha double standard 2 faced !@#holes.

but it may answer the ? of what is a fl cur. it must be a bmc with another name, or bmc is a fl cur with another name.
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« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2014, 12:23:46 am »

 my granddady was born in 1921 they had free ranged hogs and cattle in the central fla woods for 3 generations . ( that we can document ) they used curdogs to find and bay hogs and they would catch the pigs with a noose on the end of a pole to cut and mark . they marked and branded cattle too ( thier own nobody elses ) . then in the fall pen them for butcher and sale . he said they had SOME DOGS  that were yeller and black mouth , and some every other color .



he had 7 uncles that moved to texas before he was born and ran cattle n hogs in the woods around nacagdoches .

 the east texas bmc came from east texas, before that it came from farther east, before that their ancesters come over here on a boat !!!
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« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2014, 12:45:27 am »

jude hart had a line of bmc's , his dogs followed his daddy's wagon when they moved from fla.  in the book ( the big thicket legacy )  . he says that he bred some of his dogs to some of his neighbors dogs in texas ... no big secret as far as i'm concerned
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« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2014, 08:27:44 am »



Here is a picture natural bobtail Bmc I post pedigree in a min.
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« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2014, 12:15:34 pm »

Is it a coincidence that if you follow the routes of Spanish exploration and settlement in the United States you will see remnants of their cattle/hog/horse culture . . including stock oriented cur dogs? Seems obvious to me that the distant ancestors of Catahoulas, Lacys, BMCs, (Texas type) Leopard dogs and Florida or Cracker curs are one and the same. Throw in the so-called Cuban bloodhounds used to run down Indians and escaped slaves and stir it all up and you'll arrive at the dogs of De Soto, Cortez and Ponce de Leon. With, of course . . loads of bulldog, foxhound, collie, shepherd, etc that found it's way into the recipe along the way. It's one of BIGO's favorite subjects if you can get him talking.

On a separate note, if you trace back 5-10 generations past Owens' Liz you'll find one leg of her pedigree goes to a family (primarily) of naturally bob-tailed, Leopard cow dogs belonging to Wesley Cotton (1928-2003) and his father Thomas Wesley Cotton (1893-1964) of Milam County, Tx. The man who produced Liz didn't like bob-tails and bred away from them . . . never produced a single bob-tailed dog after the early-mid 1950s.
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« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2014, 07:04:00 pm »

yessir mr. barlow . ben jordan has said that the tail and the color is the easiest things to breed for  Wink
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