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« on: February 11, 2014, 06:14:29 pm » |
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I have a lot of experience with pitbulls. Been raising them and breeding them since I was 8, im 29 now. Had a lot of good catchdogs. I recently received a pitbull from an old man. The old man told me my bulldogs daddy was bad,(my dog doesn't even look like he's full blood) looks like a big brindle cur with a big head and jaws. (HE IS FULL BLOOD) I researched the bloodline. But the old man said the daddy was bad and that every time he caught a hog he had to squeeze the dog between his legs and use two breaking sticks (one on each side of his mouth). Naturally I believed he may have been a good dog but exaggerated. But random people would see my dog and ask where did I get him id tell them, id tell them. They would then reply my dogs daddy (BIG SPOOK) is a bad M*****F*****. Im like ok he must be bad. but still didn't believe bout having to use two breaking sticks. well when I first started catching with my dog he'd hit the hog hard and hold on, but when I grabbed his colar and pull he'd come off fairly easy. So I told the old man, he said (his jaws haven't set in yet) he had never been off the chain in his life until I got him. He said every body thinks a bulldog comes in this world knowing how to lock it jaws but they don't (which confused me a little because my bloodline of pitbulls did and started catching as early as 4 months old). He said just stick with him if he at least half of what his daddy is he's going to make you a hellacious dog. I was like ok ill keep catching with him and see what kinda dog he becomes, I got plenty of bulldogs & if he don't turn out it wont hurt me. Well I caught three more hogs with him. The first one he nailed him I grabbed his collar pulled the bulldog off. The second one he hit the hog on the edge of the creek bank they flipped and rolled down the bank "he had ahold of the hogs ear the hole time they were flipping and rolling down a 20ft creek bank". The next hog was when I had started hunting with the old man, we took my bulldog and his brother. The old man said "YOU BREAKING THE BULLDOGS AND LAUGHED". I said ok no problem. We Bayed bout a 300lb boar hog the biggest hog my bulldog has ever been on at the time. The old man said turn your bulldog loose I wanna see how he is progressing, I know what his brother will do hes already been catching 400plus pound hogs. So I unsnapped my bulldog, as usual he makes a full speed dash to the hog...........BUT WITH A BIG DIFFERENCE........ when he caught the boar he power-drove the hogs head into the ground. I grabbed the head the old man tied him and said "now get'chya bulldog off". I grabbed his collar, put the breaking stick in his mouth AND COULD NOT TURN THE BREAKING STICK. The old man said come on now the dogs are bayed again. so I ended up putting the dog between my legs squeezing and leaning back while turning the breaking stick with two hands to get him off. When we got home skinning hogs the old man said 'what happened with you and that bulldog'. I said I couldn't turn the breaking stick. He then replyed " that aint sh** he is just started the older he gets the worse it gonna get HA HA you better get ready". I am now a believer. I finally got to hunt with my dogs daddy. He is 16 years and old has no teeth. you don't have to use two breaking sticks now cause he is old, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO USE TWO HANDS ON ONE BREAKING STICK to get him off. Ive realized with my bulldog the bigger the hog is and the harder it fights the harder it is to get him off. I don't have a problem catching 300 plus hogs by myself. I ask my buddys do they wanna go, but if they don't im still going. I thank the old man for giving me the bulldog, wouldn't sale him for 2000$.
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Treezbulldogz
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 06:29:46 pm » |
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I hope you don't believe that "lock jaw" B.S. Just another myth man.
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LAhogger84
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 06:31:06 pm » |
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If there was such thing as a "lock jaw" a break stick wouldn't work
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willsho
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 06:34:33 pm » |
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whats the myth..? pitbulls and bulldogs were bread to bite harder than the average dog and not let go. if they didn't there would be no need for a break stick. lol
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willsho
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 06:37:53 pm » |
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its the will of the dog to bite hard and not let go that's whats usually called lock jaw. but I have seen with my own eyes a bulldog bite something and want to let go but physically could not with out help.
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LAhogger84
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 06:41:27 pm » |
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Yea happen to me with mine last week. 3 men couldn't get him off even with stick. Finally just cut the hogs ear off
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 06:45:40 pm » |
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Well if you been breeding them since you were 8; you know a lot more about them then I do. That's pretty young man.
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willsho
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 06:47:55 pm » |
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yea that's how that bulldog I got from the old man is, but idk how. I see it with my eyes but it don't look right because he is not a big huge dog. He is tall but lanky built. its hard to make him gain weight.
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willsho
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 06:50:17 pm » |
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yea I started young. when I first started hog hunting that's all I had. by the time I got to high school I had 16.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 07:29:15 pm » |
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its the will of the dog to bite hard and not let go that's whats usually called lock jaw. but I have seen with my own eyes a bulldog bite something and want to let go but physically could not with out help.
Bulldogs in hold don't let go of something because they don't WANT to. Not because they have "lock jaw." That lock jaw myth has got to be one of the most BS aggravating myths/terms I have ever heard, and is fuel for the BSL agenda. They do NOT have lock jaw. They have a very powerful bite, yes, but not lock jaw. The will to not let go is better referred to as DETERMINATION, or something along those lines. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 07:34:18 pm » |
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its the will of the dog to bite hard and not let go that's whats usually called lock jaw. but I have seen with my own eyes a bulldog bite something and want to let go but physically could not with out help.
Bulldogs in hold don't let go of something because they don't WANT to. Not because they have "lock jaw." That lock jaw myth has got to be one of the most BS aggravating myths/terms I have ever heard, and is fuel for the BSL agenda. They do NOT have lock jaw. They have a very powerful bite, yes, but not lock jaw. The will to not let go is better referred to as DETERMINATION, or something along those lines. Like |
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willsho
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 07:37:31 pm » |
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actually the term LOCKED JAWS better suits the dogs ability. for example I have seen a dog DEAD still hung on a hogs ear LOCKED. and you had to use a breaking stick still get him off. break stick=key to getting him off. because im pretty shure determination stops after death. lol ;-)
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 07:40:56 pm » |
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O man. I see Another heated debate about to start
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2014, 07:43:09 pm » |
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Dude.... you must have them super good gator mouf dogs, you should breed a truck load... You'll make a fortune.
I really want to delete this thread just cause....
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MrsLouisianaHogDog
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 07:46:00 pm » |
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actually the term LOCKED JAWS better suits the dogs ability. for example I have seen a dog DEAD still hung on a hogs ear LOCKED. and you had to use a breaking stick still get him off. break stick=key to getting him off. because im pretty shure determination stops after death. lol ;-)
With all due respect, it sounds like you're using the false term "lock jaw" in place of the proper term "in hold." I too have been around bulldogs for quite some time. Here is the definition of "lock jaw," and it is NOT what a bulldog has. A bulldog has a powerful bite, and the will to stay IN HOLD for as long as he can until he is broke off with a break stick. Lockjaw can refer to any of the following: Medical conditions and diseases: Trismus, a pathological condition in which the mouth is held shut by sustained spasm of the masseter (jaw) muscle, often observed in cases of tetanus. Tetanus, an infectious disease of the central nervous system. Us owners of bulldogs in today's day in age try to use proper terminology. Using terms like this is what spreads ignorant rumors and falsehoods about the breed that once again, fuels not only the BSL agenda, but ignorant "pit bull" haters. |
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willsho
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 07:53:38 pm » |
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It might actually be an involuntary muscle spasm caused by god knows what that causes some dogs to set their jaws impossibly hard and continue while the dog is dead. be logical LOCK JAW. LOL
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2014, 07:56:47 pm » |
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It might actually be an involuntary muscle spasm caused by god knows what that causes some dogs to set their jaws impossibly hard and continue while the dog is dead. be logical LOCK JAW. LOL
Or maybe it's because you know, "pit bulls'" brains grow too big for their skull and one day the just "turn" and lose their dang minds and just start mauling people? See how that sounds? I already made my point. All in all, moral of the story is, bulldogs have powerful jaws, yes, and the good ones stay in hold. But they sure don't have lock jaw, lmao. |
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LAhogger84
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2014, 07:56:54 pm » |
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What I wanna know is what is it inside of a pit bull that makes him want to grab a hold of something 5 times his size. What posseses him to do that. Don't tell me its cus he wanna please his owner or something My bull dog grabbed the first hog he ever seen ever since then he would go to bay and do his deal.
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