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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 08:54:00 pm » |
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It all depends on what sneakers they r wearing that day.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 12:12:37 pm » |
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Well when I get to the woods they always seem to run, now i've been reading this post and pretty sure I've got it figured out! When I get to the woods it always seems nature calls for a movement< which I of coarse have to answer at the loss of a shirt sleeve usually. So Im pretty sure its the combination of my wife's cooking and my digestive track that makes a powerfull aroma of which the pigs must be running from!
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2014, 02:26:46 pm » |
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Guys I really appreciate the answers. I agree that there are a lot of things in the overall environment that will make a hog run, or at least get up and start walking. We have all read this and read that about the open dogs making a hog run, and some will always beleive it. Of course the others will say that a silent dog will get you closer to a hog before it runs. We all agree that if a hog wants to run, he is gonna run. It is fight or flight for a hog. This thread identifies other things that can make a hog move. I agree with most everything listed here and for the purpose of arguing, I dont think that an open dog will make a hog run more or less than anything else. Knowing the dogs are running behind him may make him run farther! All good discussion and I appreciate the info.
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2014, 03:03:14 pm » |
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Guys I really appreciate the answers. I agree that there are a lot of things in the overall environment that will make a hog run, or at least get up and start walking. We have all read this and read that about the open dogs making a hog run, and some will always beleive it. Of course the others will say that a silent dog will get you closer to a hog before it runs. We all agree that if a hog wants to run, he is gonna run. It is fight or flight for a hog. This thread identifies other things that can make a hog move. I agree with most everything listed here and for the purpose of arguing, I dont think that an open dog will make a hog run more or less than anything else. Knowing the dogs are running behind him may make him run farther! All good discussion and I appreciate the info.
Dang!? That's all I've ever said! Lol.....Heck...I KNOW you can catch hogs with semi open/open dogs but I never could quite believe that the hogs don't get pushed at least a bit by open dogs. |
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2014, 03:04:18 pm » |
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2014, 04:13:53 pm » |
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Well it can be best said by "fight or flight". They will do one or the other. Some more than others and dogs are just one of the varriables. But nothing can always be said for sure. I know if I was running and heard may pack of dogs chasing me, Id keep running or find a tree.
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2014, 10:34:11 pm » |
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I think hogs somehow know when they are safe and when they need to haul a$$. For instance few wks ago we pulled up to place to hunt an low an behold I seen a few hogs an I'm prob 200 yds away an I keep drivin an try to be quiet while getting dogs collared an ready an I walk back to pipeline wher I see them and they done scattered. Dogs ran them for over an hr an never caught one. Another example I was riding around lookin for sigh one day an I'm drivin down the road an spot hogs in middle of road 75yd ahead of me and they could clearly see my truck. I sat ther an watched them for. 20min feed in the ditch. And of course I had no dog with me. So they know when they are in danger whether a dog is barking or not. Around here if they hear a tailgate drop there probably already on there way out
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2014, 11:04:20 pm » |
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If I cut loose on hogs I see , it turns into a race.
Barking or not a hog will know when it is being ran. Four wheelers , trucks , talking etc are all heard by the hog . I think that is where hunting range of a dog comes in.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2014, 01:33:41 am » |
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Keep on posting it up!! I like reading the input!! What y'all think about 1/2 mountain cur 1/2 walker or English dog in y'all's opinion?
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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2014, 07:19:32 am » |
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with that cross if you are concerned about running open dogs it might not be the one for you . would make good coon and squirrel dogs tho |
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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2014, 07:41:44 am » |
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Well when I get to the woods they always seem to run, now i've been reading this post and pretty sure I've got it figured out! When I get to the woods it always seems nature calls for a movement< which I of coarse have to answer at the loss of a shirt sleeve usually. So Im pretty sure its the combination of my wife's cooking and my digestive track that makes a powerfull aroma of which the pigs must be running from!
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2014, 07:44:05 am » |
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Just my 2 cents for what it is worth. I personally dont think any animal has the ability to think through any thing. Animals act on pure instinct. IMO a hog is a smart animal and has the capabity to think through a situation. If that hog in that very moment feels running is going to increase his chance of survival hes gonna do it. If he thinks holdin still is be better its gonna do that. I dont know about yahl but i look at it as when i go to the woods the hogs already know im there. Im no expert but thats my opinion
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2014, 08:43:27 am » |
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Guys I really appreciate the answers. I agree that there are a lot of things in the overall environment that will make a hog run, or at least get up and start walking. We have all read this and read that about the open dogs making a hog run, and some will always beleive it. Of course the others will say that a silent dog will get you closer to a hog before it runs. We all agree that if a hog wants to run, he is gonna run. It is fight or flight for a hog. This thread identifies other things that can make a hog move. I agree with most everything listed here and for the purpose of arguing, I dont think that an open dog will make a hog run more or less than anything else. Knowing the dogs are running behind him may make him run farther! All good discussion and I appreciate the info.
Dang!? That's all I've ever said! Lol.....Heck...I KNOW you can catch hogs with semi open/open dogs but I never could quite believe that the hogs don't get pushed at least a bit by open dogs. I know out of all the "silent" dogs ive hunted with, i'd say that atleast 80% of them would yip after a hog breaks... So why does it even matter? And im talking more along the lines of loose baying dogs, not alligators or them " jammed up hog stoppers" ... I know i can hear my dogs running through the woods before i can see them alot of times... So even if a hog was too stupid to use his other senses, im sure they can hear the dogs coming before they bark alot of times.. Unless your dogs are like Rambo, and sneaks down wind from tree to tree to get close enough before they know hes there...  |
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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2014, 06:19:15 pm » |
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I know i can hear my dogs running through the woods before i can see them alot of times... So even if a hog was too stupid to use his other senses, im sure they can hear the dogs coming before they bark alot of times..
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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2014, 06:50:01 pm » |
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From what I have seen I dnt thnk any of that will make a hog run. I have dang near tripped over I dnt know how many when hunting. I believe they are alot like deer in that sense. Now if he hears a dog open I really dnt know what difference it would make because I prefer silent dogs. Ive had open dogs in the past and im not knocking them by any means so dnt bash me for it yall! I just prefer silence.
I tend to agree with the above statement & I will tell you why. We went this past weekend & were going down a narrow slew in my boat. Every dog in the boat blew up. I backed the boat up to where they first rigged at & turned two dogs loose. Caught hog, 15 ft. from the boat. Shortest hog race I ever had. We have put tracking collars on hogs & let our plott pups trail them up.. The boar almost every time would wait until the dogs were right on top of them before breaking. Have hunted them out of airboats & been right on top of them before they broke, same with 4 wheelers. Now saying all that I also believe in the russian genetic theory that makes them run. haha |
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2014, 07:51:36 pm » |
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From what I have seen I dnt thnk any of that will make a hog run. I have dang near tripped over I dnt know how many when hunting. I believe they are alot like deer in that sense. Now if he hears a dog open I really dnt know what difference it would make because I prefer silent dogs. Ive had open dogs in the past and im not knocking them by any means so dnt bash me for it yall! I just prefer silence.
I tend to agree with the above statement & I will tell you why. We went this past weekend & were going down a narrow slew in my boat. Every dog in the boat blew up. I backed the boat up to where they first rigged at & turned two dogs loose. Caught hog, 15 ft. from the boat. Shortest hog race I ever had. We have put tracking collars on hogs & let our plott pups trail them up.. The boar almost every time would wait until the dogs were right on top of them before breaking. Have hunted them out of airboats & been right on top of them before they broke, same with 4 wheelers. Now saying all that I also believe in the russian genetic theory that makes them run. haha several times I have had broke bays and all the dogs leave out and I stand there listening to see which way the dogs will go...then I see a hog get up not far from where the dogs were baying and slowly slink away... |
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2014, 08:42:29 am » |
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So then- its not the open dog that makes the hog run, it is the threat! The hogs beleives fight or flight for life.
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2014, 03:57:14 pm » |
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i have seen this twice . been sitting on my horse while old dogs are out hunting and the pup thats kinda hanging close sticks his nose in a bush a few feet away that you wouldnt think could hide a possum . i take down my rope to do a little trash breaking and bam -out runs a hog and he goes and finds my dogs . lol my buddy said man thats a dang good find dog haha . had the same thing happen with cattle . what makes a hog or cow run is pressure , some will tolerate more than others  |
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