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« on: March 17, 2008, 11:59:20 am »

Anyone ever dealt with a dog that gets a little possesive over a caught or killed hog?  I just noticed this for the first time Sunday morning on a gyp I've been hunting real hard for about a year.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 12:00:42 pm »

yep, i've seen it.lol. mike's dog though so i'll let him tell ya about it...
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 12:11:43 pm »

We have hunted with a few like that. Seems they think if they strike the hog, they own the hog.  Grin  Who am I to fault them, they did find the hog Cool
One gyp we hunt with will camp out over the hog, and growl at any other dog that comes up. It has not caused any real problems that I am aware of, other than a bit of an annoyance at times. Some people might be bothered by it, but I am not one of them

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 12:16:35 pm »

Yep, i've seen a bunch of dogs like this. My Blue dog is bad about it... he tries to jump on any dog that comes around the hog after it's tied or dead.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 01:26:30 pm »

I have several like that, and I don't mind it a bit. Those dogs are the ones that never quit IMO. They want to controll the hog live or dead. I like to see a young dog standing on top of a dead hog, claiming it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 02:14:57 pm »

I have seen it and I dont tollerate it.  Once a hog is down I expect my bay dogs to not bother it again. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 02:22:19 pm »

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Once a hog is down I expect my bay dogs to not bother it again.

I don't want a dog messing with a caught hog, but I don't mind one camping out next to the caught hog, and being possessive.   I see those as two different things myself.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 02:40:30 pm »

I think he is referring to dogs jumping other dogs near the hog after the hog is cought and tied. Maybe you are referring to this also it just seemed like it was being taken as the dog being aggressive with the hog after it was cought.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 02:55:19 pm »

I have found one of the hardest things to teach my dogs to do is to leave once a hog is caught or killed and go back to hunting.  I have most of the young ones where I can lead them out about 20 yards and send them on and they won't go back, but sometimes during all the commotion of trying to tie it would be nice if the dogs would roll back out and get out of the way.  What has been beneficial to me is pulling a caught hog around in the buggy behind my four wheeler.  When a dog comes in and wants to go back there and bark I will catch him/her and lead them back out saying "caught hog".  They rarely bark at one in the trailer anymore and I would think the same would apply in the woods.

After thinking this over, maybe I should just let her be and it might act as a little more reason for the other dogs to get back out hunting.

As a sidenote, I have noticed that the rougher dogs are usually the ones that are harder to get back out.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 03:11:36 pm »

Circle C,  sorry for the confusion, that didnt come out quite rite. LOL 

I was reffering to dogs hanging around to guard a caught hog and being agressive towards other dogs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2008, 06:07:07 pm »

My "Pistol" dog will get real posessive over a hog when he has run it a long way by himself but hes not too bad if theres other hogs around because he will roll on and find another one. I dont like the possesiveness around young dogs.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 08:01:42 pm »

Being possive , growling, which sometimes lead to fighting over a dead hog , tied hog or gut pile is not part of my training program. I cant stand it & I will get on a dog in a heartbeat for doing it.There is a lot of things that could happen if you allow this kind of behavier to take place in your pack.There is no advantage at all in letting your dog do this.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 08:53:15 pm »

Don't get me wrong, my dog does it... but he gets "disciplined" from me when it happens. It's just something that i've never been able to break him from... and he ain't no cull! Wink

He's pushing 7 years old and if we were in a group of hogs he'll usually roll on another one... but sometimes he "owns" the caught hog.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 10:28:14 pm »

Thanks for the comments.  I was just kidding on the let her be comment.  I don't tolerate any of my dogs being grouchy towards each other, but on the other hand I am very cautious on how I discipline them around a hog.  I want my point to be well understood.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2008, 10:33:50 pm »

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT FEED THE HEART , LIVER AND KYDNEYS TO THE DOGS AS A REWARD. TO ME THATS JUST ASKING FOR A FIGHT. I WONT LET MY DOGS AROUND A GUT PILE.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2008, 10:52:56 am »

I don't like that stuff either. When the hog is dead and I say "dead hog load up" the dog better be moving to the Mule if they want a ride home. Ain't got time... Grin

That one of those deals that it probably doesn't hurt any thing but is a bad habbit, especially when there are young dogs around. I like every thing to be easy going... don't chase dogs to get them to load up, won't seperate dogs because the don't get along, or any of that other stuff. They either get with the program or move on down the road (no matter how good they are).
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2008, 11:27:54 am »

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I don't tolerate any of my dogs being grouchy towards each other, but on the other hand I am very cautious on how I discipline them around a hog.  I want my point to be well understood.

Bryant, I think that is a VERY wise statement.  I think too many people get caught up in this "my dog better do what I want or else" type of mentality and end up missing the big picture.  Most dogs are going to associate correction with the activity that's going on at the time.... and **in my opinion** that makes correction at a hog pretty touchy.  As a general rule, I try to be extremely careful what I correct any dog for, when he is doing what I'm training him to do.  I'm not saying not to correct the dog, don't misunderstand me.  I'm just saying that folks need to be careful & and choose the time for that correction carefully.

You can MAKE a dog do nearly anything you want him to do, but if you choose the wrong time for correction, you can accidentally train him not to do the right things as well.  Did that make a lick of sense?

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2008, 11:38:39 am »

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I don't tolerate any of my dogs being grouchy towards each other, but on the other hand I am very cautious on how I discipline them around a hog.  I want my point to be well understood.

Bryant, I think that is a VERY wise statement.  I think too many people get caught up in this "my dog better do what I want or else" type of mentality and end up missing the big picture.  Most dogs are going to associate correction with the activity that's going on at the time.... and **in my opinion** that makes correction at a hog pretty touchy.  As a general rule, I try to be extremely careful what I correct any dog for, when he is doing what I'm training him to do.  I'm not saying not to correct the dog, don't misunderstand me.  I'm just saying that folks need to be careful & and choose the time for that correction carefully.

You can MAKE a dog do nearly anything you want him to do, but if you choose the wrong time for correction, you can accidentally train him not to do the right things as well.  Did that make a lick of sense?


i'm no dog expert but i agree completely jlingle. i've seen that firsthand. i think it's very easy for a dog to misunderstand the reasons they are being disciplined if it's not made very clear to them. that's all i have, like i said- not a dog expert.lol.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2008, 11:46:54 am »

Makes perfect sense and I agree 100%.

The same principal applies to cleaning up a dog off trash.  I personally use a shock collar but I will NOT shock a dog that I think is trashing in the woods, nor will I shock or scold a dog that comes in from hunting after I saw him run a deer 10 minutes ago (and for whatever reason couldn't shock him right then and there).  If you can catch them right in the middle of the act and very, very sternly make your point it usually doesn't take but about two times to get them right.  It's all about timing.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2008, 12:56:20 pm »

I will have to say I agree 100% Like to catch a dog in the act so he knows exactly what he is not suppose to do they are kinda like a young a toddler. If you don't catch them in the act then they they think they are getting in trouble for what they are doing at the moment. Make sense.
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