Training a catch dog

[reatj81]

some folks just don't get it...

And never will

[Shotgun wg]

The ones with the it won't happen mentality are the same ones that drowned when Noah built the boat.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[hog bit]

Mods took the link down.  Let's all move on and get back to talking about making a catch dog.

[hatchet10]

Wow, do you guys live in the same America I do? If you haven't  noticed, we're cut short on rights these days. In a blink of an eye every right that you have could be stripped from you for no reason what so ever. I do "get it" you guys are scared of loosing your hog dog rights because some guy posted a video that might upset the tree huggers. The video is not the crime, its the evidence. The way they look at it, they don't want you doing it at all- video or no video. Like I said, It doesn't matter to me, I would hunt with dogs regardless of the law. You know, I got ambushed and pinned down once in the war, the medvac helicopter wouldn't come pick our wounded up because a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy cost less to replace than a million dollar aircraft. These are the same people that run our country and make our laws/decide what rights you get. You think I care if the same people make it illegal to hog dog. I joined this forum to help people out, I don't do half the crap people recommend on here and I catch hogs every time I go to the woods with some rag tag pound dogs. Here's the only question I've ever asked on here------------------------------------------How do I delete my account with East Texas Hog Doggers?---------------------------------

[justincorbell]

Wow, do you guys live in the same America I do? If you haven't  noticed, we're cut short on rights these days. In a blink of an eye every right that you have could be stripped from you for no reason what so ever. I do "get it" you guys are scared of loosing your hog dog rights because some guy posted a video that might upset the tree huggers. The video is not the crime, its the evidence. The way they look at it, they don't want you doing it at all- video or no video. Like I said, It doesn't matter to me, I would hunt with dogs regardless of the law. You know, I got ambushed and pinned down once in the war, the medvac helicopter wouldn't come pick our wounded up because a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy cost less to replace than a million dollar aircraft. These are the same people that run our country and make our laws/decide what rights you get. You think I care if the same people make it illegal to hog dog. I joined this forum to help people out, I don't do half the crap people recommend on here and I catch hogs every time I go to the woods with some rag tag pound dogs. Here's the only question I've ever asked on here------------------------------------------How do I delete my account with East Texas Hog Doggers?---------------------------------

unless it has changed, they don't delete an account (per mikes convo w/ noah awhile back), now they will ban you if you get to ignorant/crude......if you really want off that bad then im sure you could persuade them to ban you 

[Scott]

Here's the only question I've ever asked on here------------------------------------------How do I delete my account with East Texas Hog Doggers?---------------------------------

No need to delete the account...we all have free will...you don't have to navigate to this site. Too many members here for the mods to delete accounts for those that want to pick up their toys and go home.

[Bryant]

Here's the only question I've ever asked on here------------------------------------------How do I delete my account with East Texas Hog Doggers?---------------------------------

There's only two things a person can be....part of the solution or part of the problem.

If you don't like it here, don't log back in...simple as that.  You must not have TOO much dislike, as you've already logged back in since you posted that.

[sandbank slayer]

So..... How bout training that catch dog? I say invest in a good vest and put him on as many pigs as you can. Cut him loose with something that is as sure of deal as you have and he'll get the hang of it. The more the merrier, he'll get better evrytime. Practice makes perfect, at least that's what they say

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

I don't know so much about the term "training" a CD, as the catching/holding comes instinctively really. Especially if a dog of a certain age doesn't want to catch, chances are, it's not going to. You really can't train one to. I'd say it's more of getting a CD used to your routine, like leading them to the bay etc.
Of course, the more pigs a novice willing CD prospect is put on, the more experienced he/she will become in the most efficient holding methods.

[hog bit]

So it seems the consensus seems to be just keep sending him to bayed hogs and let him catch. I know he will catch and hold,  but I am looking to influence his method.
 If he isn't in the ear, he willl be broken off and put on the ear then put shoulder to shoulder.
 

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[sandbank slayer]

Being that you took alittle heat for the video you originally posted, and i understand why, I won't post another. However I've got a decent video of some pups outta my dogs, Alittle over 4 months showed em them a pig and it was like they been doin it forever. Both went straight to the ear and caught it. All we do around here is put em on pigs as much as possible, most of em are smart and will learn something new every time. I say keep doin what your doin and you'll end up with a sure fire CD.

[reatj81]

My 6 yr son said feed em wax!   "Ear Wax". 
Lol        that's the best one I herd yet.


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[sandbank slayer]

My 6 yr son said feed em wax!   "Ear Wax". 
Lol        that's the best one I herd yet.



Hey you never know he may be on to something.

[Reuben]

  He caught the jaw once and the ear the rest.
 Once he is caught I want him to get shoulder to shoulder and anchor down. Are these things that can be taught?

I can't say that this will work because I have tried this idea that was told to me once and it worked but one can't say for sure unless we have tried it many times and getting the same results...but it has to be a bulldog that already wants to catch...have a dog or 2 baying the hog...keep the CD on lease and when he is trying to catch lead him to the ear...I was told that the first time a cd catches is where he will try to catch most the time...might be some truth to that and worth a try...

this other one I haven't tried but it makes a lot of sense to me...and it should help with the problem you are having...if the CD wants to catch the front end or the jaw then put a muzzle on him and turn him loose in a controlled environment...the dog will go to the front end as usual and he will get beat around for a while and then the dog will start coming from the side or from behind so that he won't be getting thrashed...might have to do it a few times but once he comes shoulder to shoulder it is time to let him do his thing...of course the hog has to be big enough to make him respect the power of the pig...I have not tried this but it sounds very logical...

but if you are looking to breed CD's then you should only breed dogs that do what you want naturally otherwise you will have the same issues with most of the offspring...

[hog bit]

  He caught the jaw once and the ear the rest.
 Once he is caught I want him to get shoulder to shoulder and anchor down. Are these things that can be taught?

I can't say that this will work because I have tried this idea that was told to me once and it worked but one can't say for sure unless we have tried it many times and getting the same results...but it has to be a bulldog that already wants to catch...have a dog or 2 baying the hog...keep the CD on lease and when he is trying to catch lead him to the ear...I was told that the first time a cd catches is where he will try to catch most the time...might be some truth to that and worth a try...

this other one I haven't tried but it makes a lot of sense to me...and it should help with the problem you are having...if the CD wants to catch the front end or the jaw then put a muzzle on him and turn him loose in a controlled environment...the dog will go to the front end as usual and he will get beat around for a while and then the dog will start coming from the side or from behind so that he won't be getting thrashed...might have to do it a few times but once he comes shoulder to shoulder it is time to let him do his thing...of course the hog has to be big enough to make him respect the power of the pig...I have not tried this but it sounds very logical...

but if you are looking to breed CD's then you should only breed dogs that do what you want naturally otherwise you will have the same issues with most of the offspring...

Interesting idea about the muzzle.
This dog definitly wants to catch, and is catching now.  He has caught 3 in the woods so far. I just want to fine tune his style.
I am not looking to breed catch dogs. 

[boone823]

David I don't mind a catch dog catching on the jaw as long as he doesn't lose his grip. I think that the more a hog fights him it will spark his desire to catch. He really looks good keep feeding Him hogs.
Good luck Bud

[hog bit]

Thanks.

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[Cowin8579]

lots of great points of view, it's even good to hear about rough pounds dogs that ended up solid hunters.

Keeping off the radar is part of being free these days. 

[hog bit]

Here is an update.   http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=83726.0
Update on Tank

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[Nannyslayer]

Nothing I can add besides, experience is the only thing any dog can get to help them out.  I know when we started hunting hard, I was always looking for a better dog, but all I needed was to keep hunting mine, the more experience they get, the better they will be.