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« on: March 30, 2014, 11:53:59 pm »

This photo was taken in 1877 in northern New Mexico. As the story goes . . these vaqueros would head up into the millions of acres of mountains and round up free ranging cattle and bring them down to lower pasture for the winter. Does the dog look familiar? I figure he must be important to them or they wouldn't have that rope tied from his neck to the one hombre's chair. For me, it is validation for the theory that stock type cur dogs, like most aspects of cowboy culture, are products of Spanish influence on early American life.

Whatta y'all think?

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 12:23:04 am »

Looks like a yeller dog to me !
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 05:05:46 am »

yep...and Vaquero translate to Cowboy...Rodeo translates to Roundup...

The pen is mightier than the sword...whomever documents usually is biased and the credit goes to whom he wants...but like has been said...a picture is worth a 1000 words...that looks like a purebred stock dog to me...
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 08:24:59 am »

Cool
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 08:54:27 am »

Very nice, I had always thought the BMC had Cuban bloodhound and molossor influence. If you have any more please post em.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 09:05:59 am »

Interesting and very cool.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 11:55:46 am »

This photo was taken in 1877 in northern New Mexico. As the story goes . . these vaqueros would head up into the millions of acres of mountains and round up free ranging cattle and bring them down to lower pasture for the winter. Does the dog look familiar? I figure he must be important to them or they wouldn't have that rope tied from his neck to the one hombre's chair. For me, it is validation for the theory that stock type cur dogs, like most aspects of cowboy culture, are products of Spanish influence on early American life.

Whatta y'all think?


wondering what happen to that deer must have been a chupacabra
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 12:59:00 pm »

Very cool pick. Man in the middle looks like the dos equies guy in vaquero get up. "I don't always herd cattle with dogs, but when I do, I prefer Yellow curs".
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 01:34:18 pm »

The fella sprawled ou on the table looks just a lil too comfortable in that lounging position! Guess a fella gets lonely on the trail! Did you notice the fancy spread on the table, ? Them fellas was eatin good. Good lookin cur dog for sure
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2014, 01:36:28 pm »

Very cool photo .  Where did you dig that up?  Would love to see that dog standing up.    I do believe that the cur breeds go back heavily to some kind of Spanish dogs. After all cur dogs originated where the Spanish colonized N America. Texas, Louisiana, and Florida.  The ancestors of the Spanish alano perhaps?
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 01:44:30 pm »

I remember some writings a while back and they described the Spanish dogs to be of the mastiff type that guarded family and livestock and then worked the livestock...the large yellow dogs about fit the description...
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 03:57:44 pm »

I don't own the rights to the photo. I bought an 8X10 print from the Photographic Museum of Southwestern History or some such. They provided me with the little info I have. I have some interesting pics, the majority of which pertain to the Driver/Owens family of dogs. I have one that is presumably of a direct ancestor of the dogs in my yard. It's from 1896 or 97.  Also have more of them from the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Most of my dog stuff is packed in boxes right now for a move but when I get settled I'll post some of em up. Thanks for looking.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 04:17:05 pm »

Very cool photo .  Where did you dig that up?  Would love to see that dog standing up.    I do believe that the cur breeds go back heavily to some kind of Spanish dogs. After all cur dogs originated where the Spanish colonized N America. Texas, Louisiana, and Florida.  The ancestors of the Spanish alano perhaps?

Probably the other way around since the Spanish Alano was the Spanish bulldog.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 08:13:11 pm »

looks possible the "pink nose" gene goes back a ways.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 08:26:18 pm »

looks possible the "pink nose" gene goes back a ways.
Yep, looks like people made mistakes even back then!  laugh

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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2014, 11:43:05 am »

Thanks for sharing
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