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« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2014, 06:23:52 pm » |
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Hope im not taken as bashing them because that is not my intent. I have one left on my yard and like him a lot.
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« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2014, 06:59:51 pm » |
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When it comes to bulldogs and trust to me it's a fine line. I know bulldogs are not what they show in the news. I know they aren't lassie either. To me one has to respect a bulldog but at the same time demand respect from the dog. HA I will not tolerate I don't care if it could catch an elephant and skin it to. I don't want one that's DA either. Now getting a lil possessive over the kill after stuck don't bother me. They are bulldogs not labs. They come with a personality that has to be learned.
A bad dog is a bad dog I don't care the breed. Once a dog registers that to me it don't live here no more.
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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2014, 07:53:55 pm » |
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Are we talking about the original "working" bulldog? Or the "pit" bulldog? I was speaking of the "pit" bulldog. And that breed is a animal aggressive dog as most of us know, so they may do just fine passing dogs and catching hogs for a certain period of time but you can't act too surprised if they catch a dog eventually. IMO it's wonderful that there's a way to work the breed I love without risking legal troubles but I think some need to keep in mind what the dog was originally bred for. Some people are EXPECTING these dogs to NOT do what they were orginally bred to do. I understand it's the idea to recognize the difference between a dog and a hog but that's not what they were bred to do. I want to be clear, I don't condone a dog catching another dog but I'm very aware that it's the dogs instinct to catch whatever animal is in front of them so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, no matter how many times the dog has passed dogs to catch a hog. I'm also not speaking about the everyday pitbull either, I'm speaking of a real deal bulldog. It's easy to take folks typing the wrong way since you can't hear the tone in voice or facial expressions and because of that I want it to be very clear I understand what everybody is saying, I'm not arguing, just stating how I feel about the situation.
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« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2014, 09:01:36 pm » |
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That is why I steer clear of game breed dogs. They make great dogs true enough but the issues they increase I'm not willing to risk. I have know folks that ran true game dogs that never had a problem for the life of the pit. Never once caught anything but pork. When it was game time they knew the target. Now u didn't haul them in the box or on the wheeler side by side with a bay dog or another cd
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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2014, 09:09:03 pm » |
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Are we talking about the original "working" bulldog? Or the "pit" bulldog? I was speaking of the "pit" bulldog. And that breed is a animal aggressive dog as most of us know, so they may do just fine passing dogs and catching hogs for a certain period of time but you can't act too surprised if they catch a dog eventually. IMO it's wonderful that there's a way to work the breed I love without risking legal troubles but I think some need to keep in mind what the dog was originally bred for. Some people are EXPECTING these dogs to NOT do what they were orginally bred to do. I understand it's the idea to recognize the difference between a dog and a hog but that's not what they were bred to do. I want to be clear, I don't condone a dog catching another dog but I'm very aware that it's the dogs instinct to catch whatever animal is in front of them so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, no matter how many times the dog has passed dogs to catch a hog. I'm also not speaking about the everyday pitbull either, I'm speaking of a real deal bulldog. It's easy to take folks typing the wrong way since you can't hear the tone in voice or facial expressions and because of that I want it to be very clear I understand what everybody is saying, I'm not arguing, just stating how I feel about the situation.
That's the issue with using incorrect terms. Pit bulls are terriers, developed for a specific purpose and then dual tasked as CDs. Their 1st and foremost job was the box now people want to complain about DA and rant about it...? Explain to me how this makes sense.
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« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2014, 09:50:04 pm » |
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I disagree with the game dog statements , I have several I use and they are the best there is , I can run all five together with no problems , they are not going to catch a dog or attack one , I train to socialize from a young age , teach them lots in the first yr , no doubt they will catch so I don't worry about that in the first yr , just dogs people , cows , chickens ect. , my dogs are reg , from chinaman , frisco , old family reds , I believe you get what you put into it , a game bred pit get built up frustration , so if you leave it on a chain and don't exercise and give a job , socialize , you will have a beast , if you don't know how to be a firm PAC leader the dog will run over you , you also need to learn each ones personality , game bred pits arent for all but if you take the time and teach well you will have the best dog you have ever seen , they are far from stupid and learn ways to keep from sustaining damage , they will die on that hog for you and not afraid of any size hog ,
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« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2014, 10:36:23 pm » |
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I wish all of the na-sayers could meet my game bred red red nose named lil red, he was raised in a cow pasture with chickens and cows, he was a sight to see actually playing with the calves! He is the only bulldog I've ever put my brand on. He not only isn't in any way dog people or livestock agressive but he is actually the only dog my wife (who is verry dog timmed) is fear free from. He will be at a bay from as far as he can hear it and be caught till the life has left him! I know this thread was started with intent to only start drama, but come on... Were here to promote this sport as it says in the title online before you can even join on here. So for all the negative nancies starting these negative comments, stick to your jerry springer shows n let this be a positive for the sport. We. Have enough haters and naysayers trying to take our hunting rights and dog privilages without you starting unnessary drama.
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« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2014, 12:35:41 am » |
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I wish all of the na-sayers could meet my game bred red red nose named lil red, he was raised in a cow pasture with chickens and cows, he was a sight to see actually playing with the calves! He is the only bulldog I've ever put my brand on. He not only isn't in any way dog people or livestock agressive but he is actually the only dog my wife (who is verry dog timmed) is fear free from. He will be at a bay from as far as he can hear it and be caught till the life has left him! I know this thread was started with intent to only start drama, but come on... Were here to promote this sport as it says in the title online before you can even join on here. So for all the negative nancies starting these negative comments, stick to your jerry springer shows n let this be a positive for the sport. We. Have enough haters and naysayers trying to take our hunting rights and dog privilages without you starting unnessary drama.
Very true and a great statement
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2014, 12:50:04 am » |
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I am a Bulldog man with 35 yrs with these dogs and the last thing you will ever see me do is brag on how good they are around other dogs and livestock and such. I have brought a couple down and hunted them and they were very good around other dogs and understood pigs were the target. BUT, there are times when you can't control every variable in the equation. Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking your bulldog won't do this or that because over a lifetime you will get proven wrong at some point. I'm not sayin, don't trust them but be vigilant.
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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2014, 01:22:36 am » |
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I am a Bulldog man with 35 yrs with these dogs and the last thing you will ever see me do is brag on how good they are around other dogs and livestock and such. I have brought a couple down and hunted them and they were very good around other dogs and understood pigs were the target. BUT, there are times when you can't control every variable in the equation. Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking your bulldog won't do this or that because over a lifetime you will get proven wrong at some point. I'm not sayin, don't trust them but be vigilant.
I agree, ,i believe some of yall trust yalls bulldogs 100% and Im sure they behave nicely..but lets say the neighbors 5 year old kid walks up to the bulldog while his on the chain and grabs his food bowl he mite get his faced licked and nothing happens but it could also be a disaster.
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« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2014, 01:30:23 am » |
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Not bashing them by any means i own a couple my self..but just like it was said before {{Bull breeds are not a 'type' for everyone. They take a higher level of experience, handling, patience, responsibility, and ownership than the average dog.}}
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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2014, 04:51:29 am » |
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I am a Bulldog man with 35 yrs with these dogs and the last thing you will ever see me do is brag on how good they are around other dogs and livestock and such. I have brought a couple down and hunted them and they were very good around other dogs and understood pigs were the target. BUT, there are times when you can't control every variable in the equation. Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking your bulldog won't do this or that because over a lifetime you will get proven wrong at some point. I'm not sayin, don't trust them but be vigilant.
x2...when I turn my cur dogs loose in my back yard I am somewhat attentive and I will be listening...about the only time I pay close attention is if a female is locked up and in heat... when I have an APBT I am watching closely...the difference between APBT's and other dogs is that they will finish what they start...and once they don't like the other dog it could be a problem...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2014, 06:51:48 am » |
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When y'all say Bulldogs are we talking pits, AB, or just Bulldogs in general? I have a few AB's and wouldn't trade them in for anything. I even trust them more to watch the kids then the average baby sitter.lol.All my ABs are loyal, trustworthiness, and fun to be around. Did I mention hog stopping machines. I use mine as a pet, hog catcher and in the show ring where in 2012 I was top points for Texas. Yea, I'm a little biased with the bulldogs.lol Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk
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« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2014, 07:14:19 am » |
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I was talking about the one and only APBT. Not the everyday "mutt pitbull", but the original American Pitbull Terrier. And I was stating simply what WOW stated. Maybe he worded it better than me, I don't know.
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« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2014, 08:55:40 am » |
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I am a Bulldog man with 35 yrs with these dogs and the last thing you will ever see me do is brag on how good they are around other dogs and livestock and such. I have brought a couple down and hunted them and they were very good around other dogs and understood pigs were the target. BUT, there are times when you can't control every variable in the equation. Don't let yourself be fooled into thinking your bulldog won't do this or that because over a lifetime you will get proven wrong at some point. I'm not sayin, don't trust them but be vigilant.
Yes.. this is exactly my thoughts and why I supported Treezbulldogs post. If you get an apbt don't be upset is something does happen and definitely don't go on a public forum to rant about it and blame the entire breed for your choices and handing decisions.
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« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2014, 09:31:37 am » |
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Not gonna lie a bull dog is a bull dog. there are going to be mean arrogant and there will be nice easy goin ones. i have 3 now but ive had about 20 over the years and ive only had 1 cross another dog and start a fight. i dont know what dot into him that day but he didnt stay at my house much longer. anyways a dog no matter the breed will reflect the personality of his owner more than anything else. treat the dog good and respect it and it will respect you and never cross you.
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« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2014, 09:49:04 am » |
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"Not gonna lie" sounds like a fact when you're actually only expressing your opinion. A bulldog is a bulldog is almost the most incorrect statement I've heard on this site about bulldogs. Right next to the "lock jaw" comment LOL both are laughable.....
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