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« on: April 25, 2014, 02:31:16 pm » |
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With every thing I have read I still can not make heads or tails out of what's going on. If it was just the grazing rights money why all the snipers? Why kill the cattle? If you wanted money you would sell them to pay off the feed lean?
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halfbreed
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 03:38:41 pm » |
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it's the government . but I am afraid mr. bundy blew it when he did an interview yesterday and sounded like a fool with his remarks about welfair and it's recipients . as a result the majority of his supporters in congress and the senate are fleeing from the issue . there is way more to this than grazing rights and money .
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hattak at ofi piso
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muleskinner
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 06:36:56 pm » |
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Now the blm is trying to take a lot of land on the red river . They are even trying to take the boyscouts camp and bldgs away. They told one of our friends that they would be taking his house and barns also. A lot of blood will b shed if they try it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2014, 08:08:19 pm » |
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Imminent Domain...
is the power to take private property for public use by a state or national government. However, it can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even private persons or corporations when they are authorized to exercise functions of public character.
there aught to be a law against it...or pay the value x 5...and if the value is anticipated to go up because of something else nearby that will cause the value to go up...then that price should be figured in x 5 as well...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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charles
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2014, 08:38:12 pm » |
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imminent domain my ass. it may be real, but so are the bullets out of folks weapons. I'm with muleskinner's friend on them coming in to take anything. they need bring their own body bags, i only got 1 and its for me
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 09:56:15 pm » |
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Just because it's yours don't mean forever! Pipe lines, highways, parks, lakes, will all have priority over private citizens. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 10:13:37 pm » |
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I just heard the complete dialogue, not the new york times edited version, and mr. Bundy was estolling the hard work and family values of the Mexican people he has been associated with. The reporter from NYT had an agenda to make him look like a rascist, and they edited his comments to achieve that goal.
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charles
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 10:35:28 pm » |
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Just because it's yours don't mean forever! Pipe lines, highways, parks, lakes, will all have priority over private citizens. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkSo u would be happy and reluctant to roll over and let them take ur land, land that may have been in ur family for generations, or land that u spent most of ur life getting it the way u want it and plan on giving it to ur children for their future? My dads n my land fall into that i-59 aka: nafta supper highway corridore over in east tx. Ill be damned if my dad or i will allow them to come in and take it just so the gov can hav a transit hwy from mexico to canada to move comadaties in and out of our country so it can be assembled at a cheaper labor rate but yet keep the smae high price and profit for the rich people and politicians. NOT gonna happen, at least while either my pops or me are still alive.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 10:38:57 pm » |
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I didn't say I liked it I'm saying it's been happening. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2014, 09:09:02 am » |
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lol I am going to give it to you as straight forward as I can , NOBODY OWNS LAND IN AMERICA EXCEPT THE GOVERNMENT . after you pay the asking price for where ever you settle and pay it off all you are doing is leasing the land from a government entity . if you think I'm wrong , quit paying your taxes !!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all taxes are is lease fees .
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hattak at ofi piso
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charles
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2014, 10:35:08 am » |
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the government is owned by the american people, thats why we, in you words "get out and vote". so it the american people own the government and the government claims "ownership" of the land, then we as americans, own our land. they may win in the end, but ill take as many with me as possible, even that is only 1, its still 1 less oxygen abuser.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2014, 11:03:13 am » |
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Have to agree 110% with halfbreed! Our government doesn't even have us or our country in their best interest. Greed has taken a death grip on our country. Sadly I believe looking through out history, maybe we have always been that way?
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2014, 03:37:34 pm » |
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My place is paid off and it still costs me almost $400 a month in taxes for the right to live there!
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GRITTY CUR LOVER
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 09:18:34 pm » |
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Charles, you sound so stupid....lets hope the one less oxygen abuser is you.
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muleskinner
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 09:47:26 pm » |
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Charles what you are saying makes plenty sense to me.
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charles
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2014, 10:41:45 pm » |
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Charles, you sound so stupid....lets hope the one less oxygen abuser is you.
Let me get out of afghanistan and u can come on down n we'll see who leaves horizontaly.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2014, 12:05:08 am » |
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U also seem to be a person out of touch with reality. Walking around like most of the american sheepeople. If u think our government has our intrests at heart, u r the stupid one, that needs ur O2 supply cut off. U are more of the problem of whats wrong in this country, u provide no solution, and if ur not part of the solution, ur part of the problem. This country needs the final solution to cleanse it from the spoils of greed and control. No form of government that abuses their people lasts, look at history. Hopefully idiots such as urself will be in the history books, the books that show our future generations an example of what NOT to be or do. There is a special place in he!! for ur kind.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2014, 07:45:10 pm » |
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So, I am going to hell because I don't agree with you?  Man you are full of yourself. You go around posting on the web things like: "NOT gonna happen, at least while either my pops or me are still alive"..... or "they need bring their own body bags, i only got 1 and its for me" and have the nerve to talk about a good example for future generations. I hope that future generations understand, that trailer and five acres aint worth dying for, and if they are productive law abiding citizens they can accomplish a lot more in life.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2014, 08:20:58 pm » |
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WHAT THE!!! a mans place aint worth dyin for ? i dont care how big or small it is .sounds like you'ld take the coward way out and just give in to em. we got a foe list on here?
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charles
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2014, 08:26:43 pm » |
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tusk buster, i would agree, a coward. a spineless person can't fight for whats his and whats right, but would prefer to just roll over n take it like a prison ho.
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Why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can!
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