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« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2014, 06:57:04 am »

Where I hunt u kill everyone u can. If not u won't hunt it long.


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x what ever it is now LOL. Your lucky to get out alive if its found out you turn a hog loose on purpose. KILL THEM ALL lmao

One of the farms I hunt another guy hunts also. He had 6 hogs tied laying on the trailer in front of the shop. The rule is simple nothing comes out alive. Well the farmer pulled up and saw the pigs. The guy was still running and not around. Well the farmer looked at them about 2 seconds and pulled a 17 out of the truck and shot all 6 laying on the trailer. When the guy came out he asked the farmer why he did it. The farmer said u know the rule and if u don't put a knife in the one on ur wheeler now I'm gonna shoot him to.

Yep he is kinda seriouse.


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I understand the sentiment, but that farmer just wasted several hundred, possibly up to 600 dollars for that fella what caught all those hogs. id have sure enough had words with somebody who took 600 bucks out of my pocket! Sounds like hes got a talented hunter with talented dogs to have had 7 hogs tied and he should have been thankful. id be awful tempted to tell him hes more than welcomed to see how many other hawg Dawggers around are catching 7-10 hogs per trip? Sorry to be that way, but money is money
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« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2014, 07:16:42 am »

There is no open market in AR for hogs. We do not have buying stations. It is also explained to anyone who runs this farm that nothing leaves alive.


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« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2014, 07:58:40 am »

Do you guys take these land owners hunting with you when you go?  I hunted some corn fields for a farmer several years ago and I've never seen some many hogs in one place in my life.  His rule was "kill every hog you bay".   Lol "OK SURE!!!"   
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« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2014, 08:09:01 am »

They go with us sometimes sometimes not. To me if the landowner says kill them all I will. If I'm not willing to do so I would not hunt the place. My word is worth something to me. With myself having been in the farmers shoes I understand his stance completely.


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« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2014, 08:45:22 am »

They go with us sometimes sometimes not. To me if the landowner says kill them all I will. If I'm not willing to do so I would not hunt the place. My word is worth something to me. With myself having been in the farmers shoes I understand his stance completely.


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I agree.

Way I see it is....on thie subject of when someone gives you permission to hunt THEIR land, and you accept, one should be a man/woman of their word and do exactly as the land owner wishes with the hogs you harvest, be it bring them out alive or dead. If I don't like what the land owner's wishes are, I won't drop my dogs there. I see it a piveledge to be given permission to work my dogs on someone elses land. I don't see how this subject is even up for discussion.
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« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2014, 10:31:32 am »

We catch and hobble or kill all the hogs we catch.  The local farmers and ranchers wouldn't like the fact that you're letting hogs go that were caught. You wouldn't have a good Mabee very long. 

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« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2014, 12:17:31 pm »

I may be a little behind but as afar as previously caught hogs running harder is concerned, I believe that is more the exception than the rule.
I've been to a bay with roughly twenty hogs, and 3/4 of those hogs wearing a mark. We tied three in a short manner and went to the house letting the rest walk. According to the given idea of how that works none of those hogs would have bayed, much less let 3 out if the pack within 100 yards of the original bay.
How hogs act on a property is dependent on the dogs and people hunting them.

And on another note just how much Russian are people under the influence there is in hogs? I wouldn't think there would be anything near what it is portrayed to be.
But that's just my .02 for what it matters
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« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2014, 01:50:22 pm »

   I say kill them all  !!!!  lol  if you could see what those 4 little half pot bellied half feral pigs that don't weigh 5 pounds apiece did to this 3 acres in a couple of weeks you'd understand  lol  . been mowing today with my walk behind mower and it was a b. I. t. c. h. !!!!!!!!!!   Evil
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« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2014, 02:30:41 pm »

On all the farms we hunt. And some farms ive hunted ten yrs,we have to kill all hogs.like i tell them when u bay ten up,u my not kill all ten.we dont use cd much on farms,just the ole 35. When we get new spots the land owner my go one time.but for us to get payed i have to bring heads out.now in the river bottoms,and on our lesse we do things alot diff,but there is no farms .
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« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2014, 07:51:41 pm »

Ok I'm just a sorry out-fit that lies to landowners and turns out hogs!   Ask them landowners to deer or turkey hunt then get on here and tell who is scratching who's back.  I'll tie and remove any hog they want me to but I will NEVER take any part in an aradication project.   They can call the heli-hunters for that.   Big thread on how sorry them guys are but If someone was to bay and kill 30 head tomorrow they'd blow this site up with pics and we'd all be In line to tell them "good job, great dog work".  I respect the landowners that allow me access but I respect the hogs I hunt just as much.  IMO hogs are no more than a number to brag about to some hog hunters.

Sorry If my strong stance on this topic has offened anyone.
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« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2014, 10:13:04 pm »

Nobody called u sorry. If u choose not to hunt a place that requires all hogs caught killed that's up to you. As I said I have been in the farmers shoes. I understand his stance. I have lost thousands upon thousands of dollars to hog damage in my crops. It was our stance as well. If it's dead when it leaves we know it won't cause any damage anywhere. I never liked killing a marked hog on the farm cause he meant someone allowed it to continue to cost me money. If I hunt with someone on their place where it's accepted to turn em loose and that person wants to I comply


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« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2014, 10:56:03 pm »

Not sure on what makes them a runner or not, but we have never minded a running hog. We hunt hounds, catahoulas, and catahoula hound crosses and if we get on a running hog we just try to head it off like a coyote race. Pretty fun hunting that way, but the hounds will stay on it long enough most of the time they catch up to them and bay them.

Our hogs looks favor that of Russian hogs. We kill all we catch or get in front of. We don't seem to have a shortage of them because of it.
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« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2016, 09:24:18 am »

I know this is an old thread but I find everyone's opinion interesting and understandable. So I'll give my 2 cents lol well I'll start off by saying when I was younger, if we caught a hog, it was coming out of the woods and going to a buyer. Hardly ever barred one unless we were in a tight spot. Nowadays, I'm older and have a good job and don't necessarily need the extra money from hogs so cuttin hogs is more the thing. I've barred more hogs this year then I have since I've started hunting. Now with that being said, I'm beginning to realize that just like deer, hogs need to be managed too. So this is where I begin to disagree with some folks, although I do understand some areas are less populated with hogs and killing is not needed, but as I was saying, there are certain hogs that need killing if you are wanting a particular area to have BIG hogs when you go hunt. For instance if I catch a big sow and don't need the meat I'll mark her ear bob her tail and cut her loose but if I catch a raw boney sow that looks horrible I'm gonna kill her and if we get amongst a pile of pigs I'll kill them as well, unless there are a few that have good color. And like I said earlier, just about every boar we catch now is getting cut, marked, and released. I'd say 90%.
I like this thread, and everyone's point of view. Thought I would keep it going.


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« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2016, 07:25:45 pm »

If you can release do it.
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« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2016, 09:34:04 pm »

You can sure kill them out last yr my phone rang off the hook from farmersand seem like we couldn't catch enough I didn't kill many but caught lots after this yr flooding in march and April heard of all kinds of ppl shooting them like fish in a bucket off leaves and boating through the woods finding ridges and killing all they caught well this yr I have yet to have a farmer call me to hunt that what happens when ppl kill all they catch when most couldn't have caught them in a real hunting situation we haven't ever really had a big number of hogs but we had enough to get farmers stirred up and want to hunt there places
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« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2016, 11:32:08 am »

Pretty simple subject to me.

If you are on land that you can cut and release hogs on why not do it if you don't need the meat? All you are doing is making big trophy meat hogs for years to come.....

If you are on land that you are required to kill or remove everything you catch then that is pretty simple......... kill or remove everything you catch......

Im not seeing the confusion with this......


As far as pros and cons of releasing hogs go I cannot really think of any cons.......the whole "releasing hogs makes running hogs" notion is nonsense in my opinion. Regardless of if a hog has been caught previously or not, if a hog wants to run he is going to do everything in his power to run and thats just how it is, put the best combination of dogs you have on his tail and run his ass til he gives out......... I wont go farther into that as it is not the topic of conversation.

 As far as Pros go I can think of quite a few but the top 3 in my opinion are as follows

1) barr hogs are the best tasting critters in the woods bar none.
2) Trophy hogs........... would you rather catch a 220lb boar or a 350+ lb barr?
3) Healthy and managed hog population, if you don't kill em all you will always have a spot to catch a couple. 4) 

Like BA_IV post over two years ago .................... you can't catch Barrs unless you cut boars


Now if you are in it purely for the sport and don't care about managing a hog population or eating many hogs or if you are in a position where you are not able to catch and release due to landowner wishes or any other factors then none of what I said really applies to you and by all means kill em all.........I wont knock you for it! However if you have a mindset like myself and my hunting buddies then you will understand where I am coming from and why we catch and release every chance we get.

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« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2016, 07:43:24 pm »

I agree 100% with what Justin said
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« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2016, 09:15:11 pm »

Yep pretty cut and dry .
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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2016, 09:20:27 pm »

What gets me the most is these guys that kill everything they can get there hands on after a few years they start doing everything they can to get in your spot because they know what you do. Omg where is the respect from hounds man to hounds man   I grew up running coyote and deer  hounds there were placed we didn't go because that's were ole joe hunted!! A lot of guys these days aren't hounds man anyway.


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