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« on: September 09, 2009, 10:07:07 am » |
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I have an athletic dogo thats a year old now. In the three small shoats i have shown her in a bay pen she goes out of her way to ignore them despite other dogs chaseing it around or squeeling sounds the shoat made. Her dad was a cd and her mom is like her. Any suggestions on what to do to get her catching other than what I have tried?? She has never been hurt or scared by a hog, or been around a mean one that came after her. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! My wifes dog so culling is not an option, but really want her to be a back up cd.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 10:51:31 am » |
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I'd get her spayed and find her a nice cozy bed for the corner! you cant fix genetics
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 10:58:03 am » |
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I'd get her spayed and find her a nice cozy bed for the corner! you cant fix genetics
Bingo!!!!!!!!!!! We have a winner. I could not aggree more. If the mother acted this way, why breed her? Yorkies don't eat near as much. They also don't hurt when they jump in your lap.
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TColt
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 11:10:11 am » |
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My buddy got a dogo (both parents were CD), that he had sold, back from a guy when the dog was almost a year. The dog was abused and all sorts of messed up in the head. With alot of work he got him to become a good pet but he showed no intrest in catching a hog. So we took him out to one of my other friends houses where I had some big hogs that we had caught the day before. I put him in their with a sow that was a little over 200 lbs and it was either make him or break him. I walked him up to that sow, she charged, i let him go, she nailed him, and he latched on. Put him on two more time with the same pig and he caught both times. The dog still needs to be on alot more pigs and work on going to the bays but he has caught a few small ones in the wild. Dont really think this would work with every dog, especially if both parents were not CD's, but my friend was willing to either "make him a catch dog, or sell him as a pet", so we decided to put him to the test, and lucky for my buddy it worked. I would not expect much from a dog that does not have hunting lines though. Might want to ask your wife before you do something like that with her dog too haha.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 11:28:56 am » |
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If the dogs mother was the same way she should have never reproduced in the first place. I sure hope your wife does not plan on breeding your dog either. The dog either has it in them or they don't, I am not one to try and make one do what it should want to do in the first place. There are instances when a dog will require a little more encouragement to get it done right, but without any intrest at all the dog is NOT a HOG DOG, and therfore not a good representation of the breed and should not have those genectics spread any further.
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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2009, 11:45:58 am » |
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If the dogs mother was the same way she should have never reproduced in the first place. I sure hope your wife does not plan on breeding your dog either. The dog either has it in them or they don't, I am not one to try and make one do what it should want to do in the first place. There are instances when a dog will require a little more encouragement to get it done right, but without any intrest at all the dog is NOT a HOG DOG, and therfore not a good representation of the breed and should not have those genectics spread any further.
X2! That gyp should have never been bred. But since she was, you should have no expectation of the pups working. Some might but you should have ZERO expectation of such. Steve
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2009, 12:19:17 pm » |
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If the dogs mother was the same way she should have never reproduced in the first place. I sure hope your wife does not plan on breeding your dog either. The dog either has it in them or they don't, I am not one to try and make one do what it should want to do in the first place. There are instances when a dog will require a little more encouragement to get it done right, but without any intrest at all the dog is NOT a HOG DOG, and therfore not a good representation of the breed and should not have those genectics spread any further.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2009, 12:52:14 pm » |
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To me, a dogo should have it instinctually. That's what I expect from mine, "see an animal, and want to fight it!". But can you describe more about the mothers temperament? Are they fearful of the boar or just care neither way about it?
My feelings for a dogo is that they should have an inate aggression toward other animals unless broken of it intentionally.
As for training her? If she as any dominance in her, she may do better with a boar that wants to fight back, if it poses no threat, its just another farm animal. I bred a litter where the father was hunted and the mother was not, and the the offspring that have been tested/hunted have done well. One was shown a boar for the first time at two years old and caught on the ear and had to be choked off. Though the mother had not been tested, she also had not been proven to fail, which to me translates to " at least you still have a 50/50 chance, when they haven't culled or succeded, but once they cull you know for sure they have those genes to pass.
Disclaimer: I AM NOT A HUNTER, but I do own a handful(maybe more than a handful) of dogos.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2009, 12:55:03 pm » |
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The dog is already a year old, so there is no use going back and saying the breeding should have never happend, too late for that. And I know how a wife's dog is off limits, so your stuck there also. Although, I would keep the words of the others in the posts above in mind, as it is solid information for any breeding that may be planned in the future (if you bred the dog) or when you get another one(hopefully off of 2 solid hogdogs). Although I have never had any experience with Dogos. I will give some suggestions that have helped me start some of the other CDs that I have or had, mainly pits or ABs. Its been my experience with pits and ABs, that they either have it or they don't. For me, its alot harder to find one that is 100% ear. Give the dog a chance, as you would any other potential prospect. And like with any other prospect, keep your expectations down. That will keep you from being blinded by them. Keep exposing the dog to pigs. Try putting the dog in there with something a little bigger, not enough to hurt it, but enough to get its attention or maybe even try chaining or kenneling the dog up where they have a good line of sight of the pig (If you can put up with the barking). If the dog begins to show interest and hits at the end of her chain, give her another shot. I've always heard that Dogos are a little slower to start and may take awhile to get things figured out. If you gotta keep the dog anyway, might as well keeping working with her. JMO
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2009, 01:09:05 pm » |
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I had a pure (registered) dogo a while back that was just as you describe yours. Both parents of this dog are exceptional catchdogs, and come from WELL established lines...bred to the hilt.
I had it in my thick head that this dog WOULD eventually come around and make a catchdog. I tried EVERYTHING imaginable over a few week period to get the dog to even show a HINT of prey drive. At wits end, I tried the make-it-or-break-it method as described above hoping a large, mean sow would flip on his switch. I put him in a small (5' square) pen with the sow and she hit him right off. He squealed and flipped over on his back. She never hit him again, but for the next few mintues everytime she would even turn her head his way he would squeal like heck and just trimble. I pulled that dog out of the pen, counted my losses and chalked another one up to a lesson learned. That was the beginning and probable end to my dealings with pure dogos.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2009, 01:13:01 pm » |
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If the dogs mother was the same way she should have never reproduced in the first place. I sure hope your wife does not plan on breeding your dog either. The dog either has it in them or they don't, I am not one to try and make one do what it should want to do in the first place. There are instances when a dog will require a little more encouragement to get it done right, but without any intrest at all the dog is NOT a HOG DOG, and therfore not a good representation of the breed and should not have those genectics spread any further. X 4
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 01:24:15 pm » |
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If you gotta keep the dog anyway, might as well keeping working with her. JMO
I agree, no since in not giving her a few more chances. I would definitely try her with something a little bigger or at least a little meaner. There is plenty of those footballs that think they are 200 lbs when you get close to them haha.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2009, 01:28:56 pm » |
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Grant you just need to start bringing her out and let me a phillip work with her, she needs exposure to the game. she is a year old, I believe we can get her to catch.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2009, 01:44:25 pm » |
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Thank you for the advice..This dog will not be bred-FYI!! But it doesnt mean I dont want her to catch. I got her for free b/c it was an accidental breeding. I have seen severel pits that were out of house dogs who never hunted that turned into good cd's and personally owned a dogo from canada that had no hunting lines and she caught like a rock star so with my past experience I couldnt say no to a free dogo, lesson learned! But to make the most of my mistake and since i have no other option thanks to the lovely Mrs. Fulcher I am hoping she is a late bloomer and I am not ready to give up on her quite yet. Paul when you and phillip are training those pups next I will see you then.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2009, 03:23:58 pm » |
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009, 08:36:47 pm » |
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I dont know but own 4 now and they do not play especially when they see that darkness running.Have a 6 month old that will climb walls to get a pig as well as some mean ass fight anything gyps at 4 months>
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2009, 08:51:35 pm » |
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mex 4 dogos is just way to many! You should just give me one!!
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2009, 09:47:26 pm » |
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mex i am coming over 2morrow
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 06:52:20 pm » |
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Make or break put on a wup your but hog and if it curs out so be it. It's more and better out there.
Maybe the woods with other experienced dogs will turn the switch on.
good luck.
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2009, 10:36:12 pm » |
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if you dont want her ill take her
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