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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2009, 02:41:52 pm » |
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To make scense of all of this.... Every dog and every owner is diffrent. Do what you belive is best for you and your dogs. Your going to make mistakes along the way. That is human nature. Just learn from them. Take advice from people. If you like it use it if not dont. Your way of training your dogs could be alittle diffrent or alot diffrent than any other Owner. Good Luck and Good Hunting
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boarwild
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« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2009, 02:42:48 pm » |
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well that's the problem. We hunt on several different types of land on somewhere close to 10000 or 12000 acres as a guess. The place we have been hitting hard is a 3000 acre plot that is all in grazer, coastal, or silage. Now the silage and grazer is 20 to 25 foot tall and very hard for dogs to work in. We usually play the wind and drive along side the fields. i have some pictures on here with a pig we caught a few weeks back and u can really see the size of the silage, i believe it's calle "cutters" cant remember. My buddies have good tracking dogs as well as good wind dogs, so we have the advantage depending on what place we are on. Other places we have are full of white brush, cactus, and mesquites, and some places covered so think you can only crawl. All places have a tank or pivot system somewhere on them and we ususally have luck tracking from there, although we have had nearly 5 inches of rain in the past 4 days.
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« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2009, 02:52:04 pm » |
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Y'all have 20 ft tall grazer? Or are you talking about piles of Silage?
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txmaverick
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« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2009, 02:53:25 pm » |
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The dog in question will be a medium to long range dog with medium to cold nose, just watching what his litter mates are doing. He should be simi silent on trail with not much grit, just going by what his litter mates are doing and watching several generations of this bloodline. I wouldnt push him much right now, knowing the bloodline helps you to know what to expect and when. He will try to start his own hog early without you doing to much if he holds true to the bloodline.
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boarwild
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« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2009, 02:55:41 pm » |
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yes we have 20 to 25 foot tall grazer and silage. there is pictures somewhere on here. Yes we hunt the actual silage in the field and we hunt the silage pits that have the fermiting silage. sorry for the goofy faces, but this is a field of half silage and half grazer.
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Wmwendler
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« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2009, 03:31:50 pm » |
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My prefered method of starting a pup is this..........I don't like to start a young dog early or in a pen at all really. I want pups to run loose and learn about life untill they start getting in too much trouble, baying cattle, harrassing barn cats, roaming too far from the house, ect. That usually starts around 5 months with the dogs I mess with. I don't really want to mess with them much untill this point then its time to catch them and put them up in a pen and put a little handle on them; lead right, load, hual, get out, don't mess with cattle unless sent, but other than that I don't want them to have much to do with me yet...they should still be hard to catch. I will also show them what a hog is around thist time, as big a hog as I feel like messing with tied to a tree. Do that a hand full of times but other than that I want them to know that hogs are in the woods and not tied to a tree or in a pen. Keep them up and work on the handle untill the time gets right about 9-10 months old usually, but depends on the time of the year if deer season gets in the way I will wait untill its over. If its bred in the dog they wont forget about it in a few extra months. Your pup is almost 5 months and will be 9 months at the end of deer season, which will be just right. Then start hunting them gradually and keep them in hogs twice a week if possible the weather will be right for it. Lead them to bays for a few hunts to keep them out of trash, then let them hunt. I've seen too many dogs spoiled by starting too young for what ever reason. My opinion is that they start hunting with puppy tendancies they very well may keep hunting with those puppy tendancies for the rest of thier life. I say let them get the puppy out of them before you hunt them. Its hard to do but patience is a virtue they say. Good luck with your pup, but don't count your chickens before they hatch and I personally would wait on the breeding untill the dog has proven himself as a hog dog in the woods and then some, even if people are allready asking you. If they are still asking you to breed to the dog in a year or two then you will know you have something. Good looking pup anyway and he has breeding behind him, but thats just a start.
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mporter
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« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2009, 04:06:18 pm » |
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Here is a reason to be careful hunting a young pup. Last weekend we took a 6 month old pup (Lady) that is good sized for her age, to see if she would go to a bay. She has been worked in a pen a couple of dozen times and was doing great although starting to get a little too gritty. Our dogs bayed up in a cut hay field about 90 yards out and when we turned our two catch dogs loose we turned her out as well. As I was getting the leashes and hobbles my buddy was already heading their way. Once I got started towards them the crazy SOB was heading back my way. He was chasing a shoat about 30 or so pounds for the reason of training a RCD pup. (They are starting to be hard to come by) Chasing my buddy was about 6 hogs from a 100 to 200#’s and hot on there trail was Lady. So hot on her trail was me trying to call her off while she was biting the nuts of a big boar. She turned him around at least twice that I know of before he finely hit a fence that knocked her off and I was able to catch her. Anyway, I was sick to thank she was fixing to get her self in a position she couldn’t win so make sure you feel good about them being on their own. Needless to say, you never no what you will come across while out hunting…..
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2009, 04:55:23 pm » |
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y would you turn a bay dog out the same time as a catch dog? from what i have seen that can turn a good bay dog in to a bad catch dog. i would turn the green bay dog 1st let her work then send the CD
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mporter
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« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2009, 05:00:31 pm » |
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Same dog box. That was the third bay she was on that night.
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