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« on: August 06, 2014, 09:16:03 pm » |
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I've seen a lot of people discussing rough vs loose bay dogs on Facebook and I see that a lot of people on there are switching to rough dogs cause of all the track star hogs and I see a lot of people trying to get rcd what's y'all's opinions on this subject what do y'all have and perfer rough or loose and a lead in cd vs a rcd I'm not trying to start any fights on her so keep it calm!
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 09:19:57 pm » |
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Loose is best from my experience. I dont hunt much but I like to be safe and last few times ive hunted I like loose. Ruff dogs have there place but I prefer loose
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 09:44:50 pm » |
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In my areas i hunt I catch more with my rough dogs... I used RCD also. I don't mind a loose dog, I just love my rough dogs and always will.. I think it depends on your area, terrain, etc. also.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 09:47:53 pm » |
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Both are good I like to have a loose dog with good bottom with some short rang rough catchy dogs works good for me ether way will catch hog. But I lean more towards rough catchy dogs
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 09:48:12 pm » |
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I like loose. I like to watch the dogs work. I carry my catch dog to catch it. Some people I hunt with like them rough. My down fall to rough dogs is when I get one in the river is when I seem to have a problem cause it's caught in the river. Swimming time
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 10:00:07 pm » |
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Small places rough, big places loose. So depends on where I hunt that day but right now it all loose because I have nothing rough right now, except my female patterdale and she is nuts...
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 10:05:36 pm » |
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I can change that Paul lol
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 10:55:23 pm » |
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I run rough dogs with a RCD. I hunted with lots of loose dogs before I started putting my crew together. Loose dogs are great and when I think the situation calls for it I call buddies that run them. When the situation calls for a rough dog they call me. We both catch hogs. We both like our style. We also both see the benefit of each. Neither has lost more dogs than the other due to style. I do have a RCD in the mend today due to catching to far away with no back up close enough. I do believe if u are gonna run one style or the other u want to keep ur pack as such not mixed.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 11:54:21 pm » |
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To be honest I like having a little of both in my pack. I try not to run all my rough ones together , mixing them with my loose dogs , it makes a good team. We don't run RCD , jus lead in.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 12:35:42 am » |
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I carry both with me
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 06:38:39 am » |
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I got another question? I got a bay dog he's 3/4 mountain cur 1/4 plott he backed up by his self but when other dogs hell get there hell try the hog a few times an the longer he's bayed the more hell growl and get ruff what makes him do that?
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 09:28:58 am » |
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I got another question? I got a bay dog he's 3/4 mountain cur 1/4 plott he backed up by his self but when other dogs hell get there hell try the hog a few times an the longer he's bayed the more hell growl and get ruff what makes him do that?
pack mentality brother....strength in numbers!
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 09:39:12 am » |
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How many bay dogs and CDs do y'all run at one time and how would be addin a hound to the group he's 3/4 red bone 1/4 Rhodesian ridgeback
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 09:45:16 am » |
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I like 2 or 3 loose and two cd with rough I run one loose 3 rough and one cd works for me a good hound is worth his lb gold to me
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 09:59:19 am » |
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Which dogs we take depends on where we go, river bottoms I run more rougher bay dogs cause we want to stop it quick.. Now when I say rough I'm talking they put teeth on the hog to stop them maybe fight a second then back off to bay not catch...open fields I run fast loose bay dogs ... we always run 4 bay dogs and two lead in catch.. Don't always have to use both CD depending on the size of the hog, But that's my choice who I turn loose.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 10:09:25 am » |
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I like dogs that know when to be loose and when to be rough. Thats why I tried very hard to keep the old stock dog instinct bred into my dogs. If they are born with it, and with experience, they learn how to read the animal or animals they are working. Hogs are smart enough to learn pretty quick, if they stand in one place they won't be bothered but if they try to leave they get chewed on. It was hard to get just what I wanted and I culled through lots of dogs. In my experience, a little too loose was better than a little too rough. Rough dogs seemed to break bays too much for me. From what I've seen, people with rough dogs seem to catch more small hogs than big ones. This is in no way the right way or the wrong way, just my way. Hunt what you like and enjoy it while it last.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 01:49:43 pm » |
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What Bigo says X-2 It really boils down to personal preference. But, if a dog is gonna get rough with a hog, he has to be rough enough to hold them. Either catch them right there or back up & bay. The rough dogs who gets in a hog's face & does not catch them will make them break every time. There are also the dogs out there who just have the touch. They know when to stop a hog & back up & bay. I think those are the dogs Bigo is talking about who do have the old stock dog mentality.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 02:11:40 pm » |
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I agree Bigo and Cajun!! I ran one dog named Bo by himself alot just leading a bulldog. Caught 100's of hogs hunting him that way. He worked the hog till he could catch and if he couldn"t he would drop back and hold that hog there bayed. He would bay them sometimes 45min-1hr before we could get there to turn my CD in. I feel the dog that can catch one and be committed to the catch and knowing when he can catch, and knows when to stay back and keep the hog planted bayed solid because of terrain being to thick to catch and move with the hog is the kind I am trying to breed! That kind of dog does not need any help except to help catch a few he cannot handle. Run 2-3 of those and you do not need the bulldog, they will anchor any hog!!
I Like my dogs to be very fast, athletic dogs that are built to run and fight! Medium size, (50-70lbs) dogs with good long legs, nice size heads for good strong bites, lean long muscles for power and endurance. A dog to big and he will get smoked through the thick terrain, to small they will get picked up off their feet when catching a hog that is trying to fling them off!! Serious, small efficient packs of dogs that each dog can find and catch most hogs by themselves!!
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2014, 04:55:43 pm » |
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I don't think my ideal dog fits into either of those categories.
I don't care for rough/catchy dogs....nothing against them, just not my style. I also don't want a dog that bays from 30 feet....again, nothing against them...just not my style. You can catch hogs with either style dog.
I like a dog that gets tight (4-8) feet and just hammers away. That distance and the dog should still be able to maneuver out of the way if need be or lay teeth if need be.
I don't want my dogs to try every pig either...I just want them to catch the ones they SHOULD catch and bay the ones they SHOULD bay.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2014, 06:26:39 pm » |
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Taz you pretty much stated the perfect dog to me
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