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« on: August 15, 2014, 05:24:32 am »

An article from the local news...I don't know about y'all, but my dad told me the same thing and I will tell my kids as well. Oh, guess what...I'm a damned ole' white boy from "the South". *IMO* Such bullnumber 2, tired of reading about parents with number 2head kids and blame it on everyone but themselves. If they are raised correctly, there should be no worry about any "talk". It starts at home, no matter what color you happened to be. 

BEAUMONT -   Kenneth and Laura Grimes teach dance at the World of Dance Studio in Beaumont, and while their moves can be challenging, both admit dancing is much easier than being parents.

Although they've successfully raised two sons who are now in their twenties, they say there's added pressure not to make any missteps with African-American boys.

Grimes says, "Being African-American males and being in the South, we have seen a lot of prejudice."

And what's going on in Ferguson, Missouri, where an unarmed black teenager was fatally shot be a police officer is what parents like Jerome Delafosse worry.

Delafosse said, "One of my worst fears is that my son will get stopped and get mistreated."

Jerome has two boys and the oldest just started driving, so he's at the age to get "The Talk".

When we hear about parents having "The Talk" with their children, it usually refers to the "birds and the bees" conversation.

Not so in the African-American community, where "The Talk" is instructions on what to do if an African-American teenaged boy is stopped by police officers.

Grimes told us about her talk with her sons, "I said if you're even stopped by the police, you just roll down your window, ask what is it that you need to do, don't try to get out of the car, don't try to have the last word."

Grimes' husband Kenneth said, "If you don't put wood on a fire, it can't burn."

He says "The Talk" is encourage their sons to diffuse a situation, not make it worse.

Delafosse agrees, he tells his sons, "If you do get stopped you do exactly what the police officer tells you to do, don't question, if anything you come home and we'll talk about it."

Other tips African-American parents share with their children during "The Talk" are:

*To memorize the officer's badge number
*To keep their hands where the officer can see them
*To not reach for wallets or cell phones

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2014, 06:27:43 am »

 IN some places racial discrimination is still in use , but the "talk" and the media just strengthen the tension between races. I am not Leo but come from a long line of family that is. I really feel the media is one of biggest contributors of racially motivated out crys.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 07:38:27 am »

Media and the likes of Jesse Jackson and the NAACP. The biggest issue with kids today is lack of respect. If u act like a person should u don't have problems with cops near as often. But when the adults stand on the porch and cuss the cops while the kids watch trying to be billy bad boy what do u expect.


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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2014, 10:25:13 am »

Neither stupidity nor ignorance is color blind.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 10:53:58 am »

Wow, when did we go back to 1960s mississippi here in texas? The "talk" should be more along lines of just be a human being, not an animal from the Congo behind the wheel. What a buncha bull crap. They don't like ole whitey to profile them, but yet they profile theirselves. What a double standard bunch of whooie.
And I agree 100% with shotgun with them uncle toms beating the whitey is a racist card and the complete lack of respect from the kids of today, not just the black kids, but all colors of kids
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 02:09:28 pm »

    lol  wish I had gotten the '' talk ''  when I was a kid , I've had my butt plum beat down by the police several times .  but you know what    ,  I deserved every one of them    lol    it's all about respect  , you get what you give and that's the way it should be  . 
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2014, 04:43:26 pm »

Here is a picture of Michael Brown. You know--the gentle giant that would not hurt a fly. Probably on his way to a UNICEF meeting when he was gunned down by whitey.

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 06:18:48 pm »

Here is a picture of Michael Brown. You know--the gentle giant that would not hurt a fly. Probably on his way to a UNICEF meeting when he was gunned down by whitey.



I see a pic of a young guy with tattoos. Is the point if posting the guys photo to make a statement that he 'looks' aggressive or like a 'thug' cause I don't see it. I don't know all the details to the fatal shooting but wether he was a black or white tatted up guy I don't think it should matter.
Then again, I have two half sleeves myself, and I'm certainly no 'trouble making no good thug', contrary to some of the existing stereotypes. I guess I was just raised to where a piece of crap human being comes in all colors, ages and sizes. Tattoos and non tattooed.
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Well the biggest problems that I run across is everyone wants me to cut there grass....I can mulch too
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^^^ he has shoulder pain. Most likely from pro ball then  he  got hooked on crack and lost rites to his 9 kids from 4 different low esteem white women.....I lol I should stop there
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 07:05:57 pm »

Now that's funny Lou.

As to the pic and from the info iv read. If I were a patrolling po po and made contact due to the reasons released for the cop to "pull him over", I would think thug, just as if I was confronted and bc of my tats, and if I were the officer, I would think I was in a biker gang. Even though he was a suspect in a robbery, but know to the shooter at that time, the cop had a valid reason to confront ink man bc he and another person were walking in the middle of the road, which can create potential issue with motorists. During initial contact and looking like he does and if he talk and acted like a hoodlum thug, then that could add to the tensions already there. If a person acts like a hoodlum, sounds like 1 and portrays 1, then the confronting officer, be Hm/her a cracker, black, brown, tan or burned tan should treat them as a hoodlum till the person shows and acts other wise to dismiss the profiling nature.

As a cracker myself with the type of ink on my arm and if I acted and sounded like a hoodlum, and I gave to po po a reason draw his weapon and it refused to listen to commands given and wanted to show my a$$, then ending up on a medical slab is exactly what I deserve. there are a few officers that make the rest of the officers look like the bad guys even though that is farthest from the truth, it the media will highlight all the negative of the police force, exempting all the positives of the same force.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2014, 08:03:00 pm »

I agree there. If someone is breaking a law they should be dealt with accordingly.....no matter what. I was getting into the aspect of stereotyping I guess.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2014, 08:21:40 pm »

I agree there. If someone is breaking a law they should be dealt with accordingly.....no matter what. I was getting into the aspect of stereotyping I guess.

I'm sure with the type of ink you have, it would not be the type to consider a sterotyping of sorts. Now mine on the other hand, can be linked to Mexican gangs, biker gangs and cracker gangs, so iv got  a mix of stereotyped tats. And that is 1 reason if I get pulled over, I treat the po po with respect, bc he wouldn't have pulled me over if I wasn't breaking the law to begin with.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2014, 09:17:41 pm »

seems like i remember getting the same "talk" and im a whitey! I always thought those were rules for everyone to follow in a traffic stop. I have gotten stopped in beaters alot but rarely in a newer well maintained vehicle. I was being profiled for sure but who cares statistics don't lie their like odds gambling. I've always heard you play the odds in poker. It's also how the "house always wins" probability nets results in police work they profile everything. they have to or they would never bust any bad guys. It's funny in all the serial killer shows everyone likes profiling. middle aged man late forty's lives with and hates his mother etc....but if you live in a city where most of the crime is by black men with gangsta ink baggy pants that walks all over like they own the world even right in the middle of traffic (like maybe they are high or just robbed a quick stop and think they got away with it) and no respect for anyone Ive worked in the ghetto for long periods of time it's not hard to see these types. I wish the cops stopped them more. like I say i've spent a good deal of time in ghettos in major us citys my car broke down in one at about twelve at night on a martin luther king street somewhere bad and I had to abandon my car and crawl under an overpass for the night and watch these thugs walk by. a balck man just don't have to have that kind of fear if he breaks down in a white neighbor hood. what a person thinks others motivations are usually reveals a good deal of their own.I've had enough of their trash talk the guy just committed a robbery I will lay money he deserved the shooting.the rioters do as well these goobs are the reason the n word is still in use. thats all!
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 10:16:06 pm »

If you have a tattoo on your face the chances are extremely high that you are a criminal.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2014, 11:07:35 pm »

  You are blind if you think the above picture is a productive member of society.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 09:41:28 am »

  You are blind if you think the above picture is a productive member of society.


Agree with u 100%
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 11:04:13 am »

  You are blind if you think the above picture is a productive member of society.

Here are some productive members of society that will put a tattoo on some faces...no charge.
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2014, 05:13:53 pm »

So now the mo governor has declared a state of emergency and a curfew to prevent rioting and retaliations. What does rioting and destroying their town so for the intelligence of the community? Bunch of freaking animals is all. There is no rational reasoning to riot over this, just like the la riots in the 60s and the riots after the head thumping of that coke head Rodney king. It seems like them uncle toms are doing a lot to better the supposed minorities, so good that they can't stand the great living from the state and fed funded millions of free health care, food, education and housing. U can take the animal from the wild, but u can't take the wild from the animal.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2014, 06:33:28 pm »

  You are blind if you think the above picture is a productive member of society.


What if he lacked just the facial tattoos?

I admit, any facial tattoos are pretty extreme, however, as I mentioned before, I have two half sleeves, as well as a tattoo on the back of my neck, and a nose piercing....
I get looks all the time from people, especially when I attend my daughters church events. By people who are supposed to be non judge mental. But wait.....that would be an entirely different topic lol.

My point is...people look at me at times and assume I'm just another one if those non productive members if society. Bet if I posted my pic up.... A couple of y'all apparently might think that lol. Except I have a squeaky clean record and would give someone the shirt off my back if they needed it.

Not saying the guy in THIS case was or was not 'innocent,' I'm just saying that looks CAN be deceiving.
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