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« on: September 18, 2014, 09:20:29 pm » |
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If anyone has any good ideals or pics that could help me with my new kennels I would be grateful. The indoor part of my kennels are 100ft by 19ft. There are 10 kennels 10 ft wide. I'm looking for ideals to water the dogs and also wash down the concrete part of it. I'm thinking of running water from overhead and in each pen. My dogs will eat waterhoses. I'm thinking about automatic waterers but not completely set on it. Any ideals would be greatly appreciated. Then I can start on housing. Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 09:53:26 pm » |
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Use metal pipes where the dogs can get it and use the lick spouts.
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muleskinner
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 10:05:41 pm » |
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Thanks for the input. Have you ever had or seen any problems were they didn't work and how would you know if the dog couldn't get a drink. I have black water troughs now but the dogs keep peeing in them. And it takes a lot of waterhoses to water. I am thinking about plex and then to metal like you suggested. Thanks
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 10:27:01 pm » |
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Mostly you see them start leaking and you replace them. Never seen one stop working.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2014, 11:39:06 pm » |
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I use those 20gal galvanized pails from Home Depot for all my dogs. They work great. Too heavy for them to tip and easy to clean.
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Reuben
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2014, 04:50:59 am » |
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I ran my 3/4 inch pvc underground...used a sharpshooter shovel...came out the ground and in the kennel...set the height for grown dogs...they do not break the pvc...been using this system for many years...running the line above ground and the water gets hot in the summer and sometimes frozen in the winter...
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2014, 05:49:41 am » |
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And if u use water buckets and how and the pee in them elevate them off the ground and water stays cooler that way to
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muleskinner
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2014, 07:53:27 am » |
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Reuben, are you using the licking system also. I also have some of the galvanized troughs but I pour their water out everyday and it smells like piss. They hurry up and piss in it as soon as I put fresh in it.
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Reuben
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2014, 08:55:40 am » |
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Yes...I use the liksits screwed on water faucets...the faucets screw directly to the pvc
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muleskinner
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 03:25:57 pm » |
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The reason I had thought about running my lines from the ceiling was because I could insulate them. If I insulate them from the ground I know my dogs will tear up the insulation. Do you have much problems with the lickit systems in cold weather. I'm open to all options.
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Reuben
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 04:17:08 pm » |
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no problems at all...but then I live on the SE coast in Texas...does not get very cold down here...but bringing the line down low enough for the dogs to reach will then have the insulation low enough to tear up as well...
the dogs do tear up the insulation when they are out and running loose...I use insulation when a real cold norther is coming down...but I could sheetmetal it if I was that concerned with it...I like the buried line for insulation purpses...only need 20 or so inches of insulation...I will try and post a pic when I get home...
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Reuben
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 07:52:31 pm » |
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2014, 07:57:09 pm » |
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2014, 09:37:06 pm » |
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Reuben that's a neat deal there
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muleskinner
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 10:35:05 pm » |
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Thanks I really like those pics
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2014, 10:01:48 am » |
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The lick systems seem to be very dependable with tons of folks having used them successfully. However.......they have and do fail to operate sometimes. Just plain simple mechanical failure. Not running them down ......just giving my experience. Nearly killed a whole kennel with them one summer. On days that a dog cannot go without larger allottments of water .......I feel they are dangerous. There are no visible signs that they do not work unless you catch the dog frantically attempting to access water from them. If it doesn't work properly .....the dog will cease attempting to drink from it...especially if it is newly introduced systems. I will personally never own the system again due to the experience I had with it and the near cost of zipping my entire kennel. A visible watter source that can be monitored by the naked eye is invaluable. Jmo  |
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Reuben
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2014, 12:23:50 pm » |
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I used them for many years and never had a failure that cut off the water supply...I have had 2 or 3 fail over the years and d really it wasn't a complete failure...sometimes they will start leaking a little and then they need to be replaced at that time...they usually go for years before that happens...
I wonder why yours failed...might have something to do with the minerals in your water or the brand used???
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2014, 10:44:50 pm » |
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Dunno......I have partners that swear by them also and have ran them for years without problem.
Mine were name brands and worked great for about a week. But when they go bad at the wrong time of year ......it can be devastating.
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2014, 10:33:16 am » |
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Mineral deposit, enough to stop all water in a wk would b hard to do. I figure maybe some trash got in behind the ball n wedge it shut. Iv been contimplating a different water system too bc i got 1 that pisses in his water n think he even drops off the obama family bc the bottom has feed in it, to much to b transfered from mouth to a 50gal trough. And the trough grow algea bad within a couple days.
But like myles is saying, visible water is better than a system that may or may not fail n kill ur entire pack.
What bout using a float type watering system n cutting a hole in the wire, raising the bucket off the ground and putting the float on the outside of the kennels where they cant get to them
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muleskinner
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2014, 03:24:33 pm » |
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Charles, I looked at one I really like this weekend made by Ritchie.it was stainless and the float was made inside so it was protected. What I really liked is that it had a drain because a lot of them don't. It was all great but the price.
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