Pocahontas Plotts

[hoghunter71409]

I've hear a lot of guy say that the cur dogs seem to bay game sooner than the hounds.  While it may be true on some occassion, I dont think that is a one-size fits all statement.  I've had some nice plotts that bayed very, very young and some that it took a while longer for them to come around.  Seems like the younger they bayed, the rougher dogs they were.  The better trailers seemd to start a little later when it came to baying.

I do believe that the hounds natural ability to run and chase game allows a hunter to sometimes start hounds a little earlier in the woods; again, not a one-size fits all comment.  Surely, someone will not agree with me.

I start taking mine to the woods as soon as I think they can run; when I say run, I mean go a couple miles (with game or without).  While starting tome young hounds, I try to put them on everything I can, as long as I know the hog is not a real bad boar match with a young catchy plott.  When I am just riding looking for tracks, I usully let young dohs run in front of my ranger.  If it fun for me to see them try to wind or check the woods for something they think they smell.  If durring the process they jump a deer or run some other trash, I am okay with this.  I would rather have a dog that is too gamey, than one that not gamey enough.

If my pups naturally bay from the beginning, it is very likely they will never see a penned hog, I dont see what good that does for the dog.  If I have a dog that is having problems with not baying, I may show them a hog a couple times to try to help them out.

[sfullwood88]

I think the main reason cur dogs seem to bay faster is because alot of times when a curdog takes a track or winds a hog the hog isnt far away and they haven't trailed it 2 miles to jump it so they haven't yet got fatigued when they find the hog .  However you are doing more driving to get these dogs near enough to a hog to smell it.  Most people will probably disagree but that was the case in most instances where I hunt.  But you dump a good hound right on a hogs tail and I net he bays just as fast as the curdogs. If he has any grit that is. Lol

I agree with the penned hog theory I see no point once the dog starts baying a hog fine to continue to put him in a square pen to bay a penned hog.
When I mentioned puppy pen that is a 100 acre pen that has roughly 5  hogs all 80 to 100 pounds that run like crazy and rarely bay. We use that pen to train puppies to run hogs and we will pull in the pen drive around to a good fresh looking spot and dump the pups if they can't get something going we send a veteran dog in there and help them out.  This is usually done only in the off season . Once huntin season gets here they go huntin only.

[Juan Horton]

I totally agree to the above post.

[Reuben]

I think the main reason cur dogs seem to bay faster is because alot of times when a curdog takes a track or winds a hog the hog isnt far away and they haven't trailed it 2 miles to jump it so they haven't yet got fatigued when they find the hog .  However you are doing more driving to get these dogs near enough to a hog to smell it.  Most people will probably disagree but that was the case in most instances where I hunt.  But you dump a good hound right on a hogs tail and I net he bays just as fast as the curdogs. If he has any grit that is. Lol

I agree with the penned hog theory I see no point once the dog starts baying a hog fine to continue to put him in a square pen to bay a penned hog.
When I mentioned puppy pen that is a 100 acre pen that has roughly 5  hogs all 80 to 100 pounds that run like crazy and rarely bay. We use that pen to train puppies to run hogs and we will pull in the pen drive around to a good fresh looking spot and dump the pups if they can't get something going we send a veteran dog in there and help them out.  This is usually done only in the off season . Once huntin season gets here they go huntin only.

[oconee]

http://youtu.be/j5Y6J5XQ54A

The female that trees on the tree next to me in this video is directly out of Poncho II.    She is a decent dog on both hogs and bear and has never said a word on track.  I bought her from Eugene 3 years ago and he told me every great once in a while he produces a silent dog but not often.   Anyway good luck with your pups.

[sfullwood88]

Man what a great lookin head of dogs.  I know alot of people that would pay big bucks for a full blooded silent plott. Lol probably 95% of the curdoggers on this forum would also . Haha.

Was she pretty quick to turn on and start huntin good and doing her thing? Are all of this plotts from eugene?

I wish we had more bear and a bear season. I would really enjoy some bear huntin.

[oconee]

She flipped out on the very first hog she ever seen at 7 mths old and was a natural at everything I've done with her.  She is the only dog I've ever gotten strait from Eugene.

[Reuben]

She flipped out on the very first hog she ever seen at 7 mths old and was a natural at everything I've done with her.  She is the only dog I've ever gotten strait from Eugene.

I love natural...no training required...just a little guidance and some exposure...maybe a little trash breaking and that is about it...

[sfullwood88]

That's great for a young dog to turn on like that. That would be great for my pair to do the same.
That poncho 2 of Eugene's seems to be a pretty darn fair dog.
Oconee - do you hog hunt alot with your plotts? With a pack like that I'm sure they get pretty catchy.

[oconee]

I only hunt a dog or two at a time when I hog hunt. 

[tnhillbilly]

Gene was just at my house yesterday, brought me a pup that I think is out of the same litter.
    I'm sending it to my friends in Spain.
I've hunted with full Pocahontas and Pocahontas crosses close to 25 years. I don't have any complaints at all with them.
   

[tnhillbilly]

http://youtu.be/j5Y6J5XQ54A

The female that trees on the tree next to me in this video is directly out of Poncho II.    She is a decent dog on both hogs and bear and has never said a word on track.  I bought her from Eugene 3 years ago and he told me every great once in a while he produces a silent dog but not often.   Anyway good luck with your pups.

is that lacy?

[sfullwood88]

Thanks for the feedback tnhillbilly.  I will say that these pups are very gamey and mouthy, I like that. When I let them out to stretch their legs the male pup is straight nose to the ground and leaves the yard just huntin for something. I like that alot. The female seems to be catching on and she's rough as piss.

[sfullwood88]

Gene was just at my house yesterday, brought me a pup that I think is out of the same litter.
    I'm sending it to my friends in Spain.
I've hunted with full Pocahontas and Pocahontas crosses close to 25 years. I don't have any complaints at all with them.
   

What do your friends in Spain hunt with the pups? Just curious.

[tnhillbilly]

Your welcome,
They hunt the 100% pure European wild boar.

[sfullwood88]

That's why I asked I was wondering if that's what they were huntin.  I bet that is an experience..  how do they like the pocahontas breed on them?

[tnhillbilly]

They like them pretty good, they have a hand full of them already and just ordered this one.

[sfullwood88]

That's good to hear. Once again I appreciate the feedback. Have you ever hunted with Gene ' s Poncho 2? Or ole miss? Know anything about either dog? Seems like poncho is the man by look and from what gene talks.

[oconee]

Yep Tom, that was Ol' Lacey.   Good to see you on here.

[tnhillbilly]

That's good to hear. Once again I appreciate the feedback. Have you ever hunted with Gene ' s Poncho 2? Or ole miss? Know anything about either dog? Seems like poncho is the man by look and from what gene talks.

I've got a few dogs that Go back to poncho, like them pretty good, but I've never hunted with either of them personally