gmurdoch
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« on: October 10, 2014, 11:12:56 am » |
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I'm sure this topic is probably covered somewhere else but I can't find it so here it goes. In terms of the east coast side of the us, what is the furthest state north where there has been reports of hog sightings? I'm talking about natural migration, not transplants.
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Mike
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 12:49:13 pm » |
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I know there's quite a few in North Carolina, not sure beyond that.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 02:15:00 pm » |
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Theres been hogs in Pennsylvania for yeats and I imagine in New York state as well.
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gmurdoch
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 02:43:35 pm » |
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I'm pretty sure the ones in PA were stocked hogs on game ranches that managed to get loose. Taking that into account, you have to wonder what is keeping the hog numbers from exploding as they have in the south. I hear little tid bits of gossip through the hunting grapevine from PA but I have yet for someone to beyond all doubts affirm that what they saw was a hog. Usually its a matter of no other animal runs a track like that and I've heard there are hogs in the area or there dog was really spooked and would not hunt out right so they figured there were hogs in the area but no confirmed sightings or even hog sign. I could be wrong and believe me I will follow up, it just seems like they hit NC and stop. Not sure if there is a natural barrier or what but there are alot of areas that are prime hog habitat up this way. I guess time will tell. Thanks for the feedback.
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charles
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 05:02:32 pm » |
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I lnow for a fact wild hogs are in maryland. Saw a good sounder coming in to land on pax river. I ask a couple guys in the hanger bout them and said yep, mostly eurasian/domestic blooded hogs. He said they have been there for at least 30yrs, which is how long he has been working on the naval station and said he was told by some old timers when he got there, that wild hogs have been in that area for around 50yrs before he got there. There is also hogs in new york. Had a plt sgt that was born and raised in up state new york near ft drum, and his family (grand dad, dad and himself) hunted them for many yrs.
Now as for the possible reasoning as to the lack of popultation, i would say it has to do with the temperature mostly. Them cold harsh winter kill off the weak.
Now as to them being imported. Were these hogs of today not imported in the 1400s and were free ranged and many generations of people free ranged hogs and hogs getting out of game ranches that possibly were imported onto game ranches? Heck, canada has wild hogs, imported from europe many many yrs ago and have gotten out.
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Goose87
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 06:59:53 pm » |
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I know southern ohio has a population of hogs
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Shotgun wg
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 08:11:34 pm » |
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If there are people raising hogs at any point chances are some got loose. I know a reasonable number of the hogs in my area are from escapee's. Propagation goes pretty fast with no natural predators and few hunters for an extended period not to mention the amount of corn fed keeping them happy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2014, 09:39:56 pm » |
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Croydon, New Hampshire has a population of wild European wild boar & they have been there since the early 1900's. They are escapees from a huge game ranch up there. Virginia has a population of wild boar stocked by the Game & Fish dept. years ago but you cannot run them with dogs. Lower Michigan has a population of European boar that are escapees from a game ranch. Most of the natural migration are helped a long by people.  |
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HairyHolder
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2014, 12:32:33 am » |
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Any place you find farms your likely to have pockets of feral pigs.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 07:10:24 am » |
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I bow hunt in upstate NY every year. A nephew of the guy I hunt with killed a shoat last year and thought it was hogzilla. lol
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gmurdoch
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 07:46:11 am » |
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You guys will have to cut me some slack as I ask these questions because I have very limited knowledge of hog behavior. That being said, are hogs nomadic feeders meaning as long as an area has everything they need with regards to cover, food and water will they stick like other species or do they tend to wander?
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rdjustham
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 01:22:24 pm » |
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I seem to remember a few (probably more than that) someone on this board put some tracker tags in a few to see just how far they moved. Don't remember the outcome. I know in my neck of the woods, the hogs are on about a three day rotation, every third day the same boar shows up. I have noticed (via game cam) the sows and barrs seem to be more frequent than the boars are.
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Hog Dog Mike
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2014, 05:19:07 pm » |
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Almost half of the counties in New York state have hogs.
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