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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2015, 11:11:33 am »

For thoes that know DOGOs there ok with holding snout there just bigger and stronger and able to do so. And a huge plus NO RIPPED EARS!!
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2015, 06:05:18 pm »

Y'all are silly! Dogos are expensive because they are magical creatures! They must be because they are, for the most part, mediocre catch dogs at best. I know there are some hard ones that are exceptional catch dogs....but then I've seen some yella dogs and spotted dogs that were exceptional catch dogs. All in all they weren't intended to be catch dogs so what should we expect.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2015, 06:02:55 am »

I like big dogs. Most dogos are junk. Most folks have not hunted with big dogs yet speak as if they know everything. After not being able to find quality dogos, I decided to breed up my own big dogs. Cheaper than buying and sorting thru cull quality dogos.
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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2015, 04:08:35 pm »

I payed 1500. For my male. He is out of one of only 4 grand world champions. After 3 breedings from dam he is the only one that hunts.  Im happy with him. Hes everything ive trained/allowed him to be.. he has more potental than I have to offer him. Ive been around a few DOGOs and I feel he is a least alittle better than most. I just wish more poeple can see him in the woods with a open. A huge plus he is great with my kids. That alone is priceless....

Fixit you need to come down and hunt sometime.
You all healed up? Im ready.
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2015, 04:32:52 pm »

A true Dogo is not junk, plain and simple, owned them and hunting them a long time! 


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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2015, 09:26:32 pm »

I payed 1500. For my male. He is out of one of only 4 grand world champions. After 3 breedings from dam he is the only one that hunts.  Im happy with him. Hes everything ive trained/allowed him to be.. he has more potental than I have to offer him. Ive been around a few DOGOs and I feel he is a least alittle better than most. I just wish more poeple can see him in the woods with a open. A huge plus he is great with my kids. That alone is priceless....

Fixit you need to come down and hunt sometime.
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2015, 12:48:13 am »

I like big dogs. Most dogos are junk. Most folks have not hunted with big dogs yet speak as if they know everything. After not being able to find quality dogos, I decided to breed up my own big dogs. Cheaper than buying and sorting thru cull quality dogos.
Smart man. Any number of crosses will reproduce a dogo or better perfectly. They are very much a "mongrel pig dog", which, don't get me wrong, is the best kind of dog there is, but they aren't worth a lot of money because you can make em so easily.
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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2015, 12:03:03 pm »

If a dogo can be made so easily, then there would be more of them and the market would be flooded. by saying any number of crosses can produce them and be produced easily. That statement has more crap in it than Christmas goose
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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2015, 04:23:55 pm »

Ok to clarify what I mean is you can make what is functionally a dogo with any number of crosses. Obviously you can't make a papered pedigreed dogo argentino ready to prance around a show ring or have it's litters sold for thousands of dollars. No, but you can easily make a dog that can do everything a dogo is supposed to be able to do, let alone what it actually can do these days, which becomes increasingly limited with every purebred generation.
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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2015, 11:29:12 pm »

I think it's hilarious when guys write off a whole breed because they hunted with a couple that weren't worth a damn. Makes me laugh. I've seen some pretty damned sorry dogs of just about every breed out there.
Y'all are silly sometimes hahaha
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« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2015, 07:57:02 am »

I think it's hilarious when guys write off a whole breed because they hunted with a couple that weren't worth a damn. Makes me laugh. I've seen some pretty damned sorry dogs of just about every breed out there.
Y'all are silly sometimes hahaha
EXACTLY! ! I have hunted behind two BMCs both out of same yard. The male was a top shelf strike dog. The bitch .......well she looked good.lol
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« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2015, 08:13:58 am »

I think it's hilarious when guys write off a whole breed because they hunted with a couple that weren't worth a damn. Makes me laugh. I've seen some pretty damned sorry dogs of just about every breed out there.
Y'all are silly sometimes hahaha

And then there are those who have seen more culled than most others have laid hand on...those folks are laughing too...
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« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2015, 11:01:30 am »

The dogo breed as it was originally bread is a top shelf game dog.  I owned one first hand, He hunt, run and catch.  I am sure that the breed is watered down like every breed out there.  I dont care if he is a DOGO or a POGO or a Plotahoula all true HOG DOGS are expensive and most true do it all dogs are never sold.  But to the person that said DOGO's are not any good and you can mix any dogs out there to get one is just wrong and ignorant. 
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« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2015, 12:01:25 pm »

Anyone ever see a picture of one of the early crosses? The claim is that there are approx 10 breeds in the mix. I've never seen anything but a large white dog, close to the final product. Would be nice form a historical perspective. Id guess there are fewer in the mix than stated, maybe something like a plott x AB cross and breed the ones that work... and are white. The mixed crosses that can get the job done are over on the Aussie hog dog board. Of course personal preference and culling are needed. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2015, 12:12:15 pm »

should add that a lot of the breeds that supposedly went into the dogo are often used in those mixed up Aussie pig dogs. Boxer, Bull Terrier or other bull breed, Great Dane, Irish Wilfhound, some Mastiff, some sight hound. Surprisingly too they sometimes turn out looking like an American Bulldog or Dogo. These pups were listed as; APBT, Bullarab, mastiff, boxer, bullterrier x Wolfhound x Bullarab
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« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2015, 02:26:12 pm »

Seems like the dogo breed as a hole is as about as iffy as a half bay dog half pit or half bull dog.        Dilute the pits and bull dogs by half and u still got a good percentage of hard catch dogs.    Yet a pit costs 100 bucks.   

Easy enough to get a dog that fills the same niche as a dogo too.   Dane/pit cross will find their own and are some awsome catch dogs.  Why pay sooooo much money for a breed when there are so many other options as good or better for a fraction of the price?   How is a jam up dogo better than an average dane/pit cross?   
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« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2015, 03:35:52 pm »

But to the person that said DOGO's are not any good and you can mix any dogs out there to get one is just wrong and ignorant. 
Just for the record I didn't say they weren't any good. They can be good, but because they have a breed name, what that equates to is there's a good chance they won't be. It means there's a lot of people out there breeding them just because they're dogo argentinos, rather than because they can hunt. And so it follows you run the risk of running into dogos that suck at hunting. This risk is far reduced with no name mutts, because they're only bred to hunt. No one is breeding dane x boxer x wolfhound x greyhound x pit x mastiffs because dane x boxer x wolfhound x greyhound x pit x mastiffs are their favourite breed and/or they think there's a market to sell puppies. Such a dog is only bred to hunt. The dogo can not say that anymore, because it has had a breed name slapped on it. That is always the beginning of the end for any serious dog lineage.

Keep in mind I own a bull arab, but the same exact thing applies to it. I reluctantly and cautiously got one aware of the risk and not liking the fact it was a "pure" bull arab, even though most of them, by a big margin, are bred to hunt, the fact they have a name means the rot is gonna set in at some point because it draws in fans and enthusiasts and snake oil salesmen. I would not have been cautious getting a "wolfhound x dane x pit x pointer x greyhound" because I know it's a legit hunting dog because there's no other reason anyone would be breeding it. I know from experience they're always good. Anything with a name is a crap shoot, and that's just the way it is. I'm not picking on the dogo specifically, I'm picking on the fact, readily observable to all, that breeds invariably, always, get ruined. The chorus of disappointed hunters who got dogos, around the world (including in argentina), is no surprise to me.

They WERE great dogs at some point, back when they were mutts bred only to hunt. Now a lot of them are big pretty lumps of crap, because that is all they're bred to be. I'm sure there are still good ones but it's only gonna get harder and harder to find them. And even the good ones are no better than a purpose bred mutt, this isn't an insult. Purpose bred mutts are the best dogs there are. Dogos used to be one and that is when they were great.
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« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2015, 03:53:34 pm »

They WERE great dogs at some point, back when they were mutts bred only to hunt. Now a lot of them are big pretty lumps of crap, because that is all they're bred to be. I'm sure there are still good ones but it's only gonna get harder and harder to find them. And even the good ones are no better than a purpose bred mutt, this isn't an insult. Purpose bred mutts are the best dogs there are. Dogos used to be one and that is when they were great.

I agree 100% and believe that applies to just about all breeds these days. When money and mass production become involved... quality goes out the door.
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« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2015, 06:51:58 pm »

Gun, where about do u live ? Down under ?
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« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2015, 07:33:18 pm »

yep
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