hoghunter6464
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« on: February 26, 2015, 02:40:23 am » |
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Okay I got a cure red bone mix about 1 1\2 old he has seen several hogs in pen bays hard so I moved him to mock hunts turned the hog loose in a wooded area let it run about 10 mins then dropped the dogs from a good ways away and walk in the general area we turned the hog loose at he stays busy nose to the ground but when he gets on the trail he goes about 100 yd then stops and waits on me or runs back to me then goes again he always finds the trail but will not finish it if I'm not close to him what do I do any opinions ?
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Shotgun66
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 05:27:52 am » |
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Couple of options:
Drag the hog and stake it out our tie a drag on the hog to make it easier for the dog.
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Get a finished dog to show him how to work a trail and find the hog.
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Sounds like the dog is not confident or sure about how to do what you want him to do. Dogs can teach other dogs things that we can't. I would do each of the steps above. One time on a staked hog with help. Then put him on a loose hog with help. Next, put him back on a staked hog alone. Then put him on a loose hog alone. I also would not work him in the bay pen anymore until he figures out how to be a woods dog. If this doesn't work, he's probably not bred right to do what you want him to.
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Hope this is helpful to you. Think like a dog instead of like a person. Good luck to u.
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Leon Keys
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Shotgun66
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 05:28:24 am » |
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Couple of options:
Drag the hog and stake it out our tie a drag on the hog to make it easier for the dog.
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Get a finished dog to show him how to work a trail and find the hog.
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Sounds like the dog is not confident or sure about how to do what you want him to do. Dogs can teach other dogs things that we can't. I would do each of the steps above. One time on a staked hog with help. Then put him on a loose hog with help. Next, put him back on a staked hog alone. Then put him on a loose hog alone. I also would not work him in the bay pen anymore until he figures out how to be a woods dog. If this doesn't work, he's probably not bred right to do what you want him to.
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Hope this is helpful to you. Think like a dog instead of like a person. Good luck to u.
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Leon Keys
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Reuben
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2015, 09:48:47 pm » |
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I agree with shotgun...only thing different I would try is keep the dog kenneled or staked out...stage the pig a quarter mile in the woods and come in from the downwind side...keep the dog in the dog box or leashed on the wheeler until you want him hunting...turn the dog loose and just kick back and ignore the dog...hopefully the dog will get bored and range out...with the wind coming towards him he should be able to smell the pig and go to him...I say keep the dog leashed up to keep the dog rested and wanting to go...
take him hunting and do the same...he will get bored and hunt out if he has it in him to do so...right now the dog just about has you trained to follow...sometimes a dog will take a scolding just to get attention...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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hillcountry
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 08:22:11 am » |
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Never even heard of a mock hunt until i joind this board. In my opinion the dog can smell where the hog has already ben handled by a human and is not near as instreted that he would be if you just go hunting instead.
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If your scared you can ride in my pocket.
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Reuben
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 09:42:48 am » |
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Mock hunts are good for those folks that are starting pups alone with no help from experienced dogs...or for someone like me that doesn't have places to run dogs much...some folks don't agree with it but in my mind it helps the pup to focus on pig...not only that but one will know what kind of dog the pup will become one day...not a guarantee but it helps in making decisions...but if one has plenty of places the woods is great to start pups...I like starting pups at 6 or 7 weeks in the back yard...before feeding time while they are hungry I throw them a raw hog head and they will attack it and have a feast...put pig in their minds...by then they have already been conditioned to enjoy raw...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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Pwilson_10
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 05:48:55 pm » |
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I think that pup needs to see the hog run off et hem watch the pig run and when the hog got a good head start turn hem loose but make the pig run in a open field a good ways before getting in the woods so the pup can watch hem good make the hog were he can run but not just fly like tie two legs togather or somthing if u know what I mean there ain't nothen funner for a puppy is to chase somthing and take a old dog with u and keep hem in the box if the pup is having a really hard time or can't find the hog let ur old dog out for help
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