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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2015, 11:09:46 am » |
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Grounds keeper that's how we roll I like caught hogs lol hard to bay with a mouth full of hog lol
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2015, 11:13:00 am » |
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Grounds keeper that's how we roll I like caught hogs lol hard to bay with a mouth full of hog lol
Most of the time the only way I know we got a caught hog is for teh squealing or because all the dogs show treed on the garmin. I do have a few young ones most of the time that will let a holla out when they get excited. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2015, 08:33:58 pm » |
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All joking aside. I do believe you can catch more hogs with one silent dog out then you will with open dogs. (did I just say that  ) I used to have this place to hunt & the hogs were good russian hogs & they were runners. I told a friend about this place & he told me if he got the hog jumped with his plots they would run the hog down so I said bring them on. Bottom line, we ran hogs all weekend & never caught a hog. In the same place, I caught 32 hogs that winter with just one silent dog out. That is not all I bayed but what I caught with that one dog out & a bulldog. I have caught plenty of hogs in that area with the Plotts but I caught way more in that area with that one cur. That being said, I have had Plotts out by there selves & they have bayed plenty of hogs for me while opening, cold trailing to the hog.I really believe some dogs just have the knack for getting bayed & not busting the bay whether they are open or silent. There are so many factors that determine if a hog will stay bayed or run & I believe the biggest factor is how much the hogs are dogged. Getting back to that cur dog, he was dead silent & the only way he would bark is if the hog was facing him bayed & I have seen him run 4-6 hours & the hog might stop & I would hear 3 or 4 barks & the hog would break & the race would be on again & that is with a silent dog. Like said above if a hog breaks, speed & endurance is what you need & it does not matter if a dog is open or not, once the hog breaks. It all boils down to personal preference & how much land you have to hunt. I want a dog to put a effort in to catching a hog & if we do not catch him,I love to hear the race but that is just me. I agree 100% Mike and me and you have talked before and I would like to add that I personally feel like the number of dogs has a great impact on the hogs breaking and not staying bayed. I have an area as you described around me too and I never turn but one dog down at a time in this particular spot. Its always an open plott and the hogs seem to stand and fight one more often times than not even though they can hear him coming. If I dropped two or more it would be daylight before I got them all rounded up. LOL |
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2015, 08:41:19 pm » |
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Oconee...I do believe one gritty bay dog usually will not put enough pressure on a boar hog to make him have to run...but 2 or more dogs will...one will circle to the back and put enough mouth on a hog to make him nervous enough to break and run...
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2015, 09:49:49 am » |
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Ruben I agree on that but if I got 3 gritty dogs on the ground and looking at the hog most of the time it's caught no matter the size. Now busting the bay is another story anything can set the hog off to run. IMO I do think the barking makes them run more but like I said before a open dog usually open befor he is on top of the hog. Some bay right off some don't comes down to what a fella likes not what some one else thinks is right or wrong. I just hunt my way cuz that's what I do not that it better or not just my way. Open or not if they can get the job done they get my stamp
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2015, 10:14:15 am » |
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Just a question but what do ya'll that run 100%silent dogs do while the dogs are working? Ain't nothing quite like the sound of a good hound!
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2015, 10:18:36 am » |
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We do the same as the open guys look at the garmin and tell lies lol
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2015, 01:00:48 pm » |
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We do the same as the open guys look at the garmin and tell lies lol
HaHa. aint that the truth.. I'll tell you one more thing too. When somebody says ole so & so bayed that hog & then the garmin says different.lol Ocenee said: I agree 100% Mike and me and you have talked before and I would like to add that I personally feel like the number of dogs has a great impact on the hogs breaking and not staying bayed. I have an area as you described around me too and I never turn but one dog down at a time in this particular spot. Its always an open plott and the hogs seem to stand and fight one more often times than not even though they can hear him coming. If I dropped two or more it would be daylight before I got them all rounded up. LOL Posted on: April 08, 2015, 11:13:00 am Alvin, I agree. I really think it is the amount of dogs on a hog that makes them break. Of course, I have had them break with one dog also. They either have to be tough enough to hold them or back up & bay. |
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2015, 03:15:31 pm » |
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We do the same as the open guys look at the garmin and tell lies lol
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2015, 05:05:15 pm » |
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Diazyl, Just out of curiosity what part on this post would you say is not the truth. I don't think it is a matter of truth but just everybody has their own opinion on what works for them.
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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2015, 08:17:50 pm » |
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I run all silent gritty dogs that catch.I also got a couple that bay by themselves but as soon as another dog shows up they catch.That being said I have really been thinking about getting a colder nosed dog like a plot because of those frustrating hunts where all the signs just a little to old for my dogs to take.
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2015, 06:43:27 am » |
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lol carefull what you wish for cracker , a sounder of hogs can go a loooong way in a couple of hours . and an old boar hog even further . I have put a couple of my cur hound crosses and my old plott gyp down on a fresh looking track at the hog crossing only to have to go back and get the truck and head them off and pick them up lol .
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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2015, 08:14:37 am » |
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Diazyl, Just out of curiosity what part on this post would you say is not the truth. I don't think it is a matter of truth but just everybody has their own opinion on what works for them.
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2015, 09:39:56 am » |
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This topic is a good one tho. I can go to ether side and have a good time. Some people get to caught up in there style or thinking is right. Well guess what it ain't lol in this game one day your team is the best the next time out can't get it right. That's the challenge and what makes it what it is to me
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2015, 10:25:51 am » |
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This topic is a good one tho. I can go to ether side and have a good time. Some people get to caught up in there style or thinking is right. Well guess what it ain't lol in this game one day your team is the best the next time out can't get it right. That's the challenge and what makes it what it is to me
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2015, 04:37:05 pm » |
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Lol I hear you halfbreed but you got em in your arsenal.Just outa curiosity what are your crosses?
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2015, 07:44:28 pm » |
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Catahoula crossed on either walker or plott ,in anywhere from 50/50 to 3/4 hound . the 50/50's tended to remain silent while the 3/4 were more apt to be open dogs
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2015, 08:52:25 pm » |
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Thanks halfbreed
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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2015, 10:27:04 am » |
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Just a question but what do ya'll that run 100%silent dogs do while the dogs are working? Ain't nothing quite like the sound of a good hound!
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2015, 07:58:17 pm » |
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So you fellas think I could catch more coyotes with silent dogs
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